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Post by morgan on Jul 28, 2018 19:17:49 GMT
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Pet Semetary
Tommyknockers
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Post by doccreed on Jul 28, 2018 19:23:18 GMT
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Post by morgan on Jul 28, 2018 19:24:53 GMT
Now I am extremely curious about what you're doing in the woods at night!   h050 |
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Post by osnafrank on Jul 28, 2018 19:30:06 GMT
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Post by doccreed on Jul 28, 2018 19:32:19 GMT
A few people on my street go missing and I'm caught with dirty jeans and a shovel in the woods at midnight and suddenly I'm a suspect and everyone loses their minds! (Sigh)  h050 |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2018 20:46:14 GMT
Neesy, your trip to the arctic station sounds fascinating. You have spoken about it before but I would love to hear the details if you have time. Didn't we briefly discuss it in a PM once? Anyway, I really would like to hear how it came about, what you did, what was involved, how you communicated (and with whom you communicated), etc..
It reminds me of The Thing. It reminds me of The Shining!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2018 20:53:45 GMT
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Pet Semetary
Tommyknockers The Tommyknockers. That's a book that'll make you brush & floss more.
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Post by neesy on Jul 28, 2018 21:06:15 GMT
It reminds me of The Shining!
You're both right - one is an isolated ice station up North and the other is an isolated hotel, snowed in and inaccessible, with people inside going slowly crazy!
The difference is that all the people I spent time with were military - well, almost all - there were a few DOE (Department of the Environment) folks there as well.
I was the Station librarian - I think that job was bonus pay at around $150 a month (this was 25 years ago so that wasn't too bad for the amount of work involved). I was also a disc jockey at the radio station up there - it was called CHAR for some reason.
We did go on a couple of trips - one was to the ice caves and the other was to a fishing cabin. Luckily it was light when I got up there and it started to get dark when it was time to leave in September.
We lived in these long trailers and each one was a "house" with various themes.
We also got to go to Thule in Greenland where we participated in what was called the Boxtop Olympics. The Hercs would come up and it was called Operation Boxtop. They were resupplying the station in the summer, while the weather was still good.
There is actually a book written about a Hercules that crashed up there around the end of October in 1991.
The following is from the Royal Canadian Air Force website:
[By the way I knew one of the survivors - her name is Susan Hillier and she was the maid of honor at my wedding to Josh's Dad, Frank.]
News Article / October 30, 2015
Every year, in the cold and darkness of late October, personnel at Canadian Forces Station Alert on Ellesmere Island, Nunavut, gather at a cairn near the runway to remember the crew and passengers of Hercules 130322 who lost their lives during a resupply mission to the station.
On October 30, 1991, at approximately 4:40 p.m., flight 22 of Operation Boxtop – as the biannual resupply mission is called – was on its final approach to the station from Thule Air Force Base in Greenland. As the CC-130 Hercules from 435 Transport and Rescue Squadron, loaded with 3,400 litres of diesel fuel, began its descent, the pilot flying lost sight of the runway.
Moments later, radar contact and communication were lost as the aircraft crashed approximately 16 kilometres south of the station. The crew of another CC-130 Hercules, also bound for Alert, saw the fires of the crash and identified the location of Boxtop 22.
The crash took the lives of five Canadian Armed Forces members – four died in the crash and one perished before help arrived – and led to the boldest and most massive air disaster rescue mission ever undertaken by the Canadian military in the High Arctic. Thirteen lives were saved.
Within a half hour of the rescue call, a Hercules carrying 12 search and rescue technicians from 440 Search and Rescue Squadron in Edmonton, Alberta, was in the air. It reached the crash site seven and a half hours later, but the SAR technicians couldn’t descend due to the weather. Another Hercules from 413 Search and Rescue Squadron in Greenwood, Nova Scotia, soon joined the search. Meanwhile, search and rescue technicians formed a ground rescue team at Alert and set out overland for the crash site, guided through the darkness and horrendous weather conditions by a Hercules.
The survivors, some soaked in diesel fuel, endured high winds and temperatures between -20C and -30C. Many sheltered in the tail section of the downed aircraft but others were more exposed to the elements.
Finally, the 413 Squadron team finally got a break in the weather and six SAR technicians parachuted into the site more than 32 hours after the crash and began looking for survivors. They were joined soon after by more SAR technicians. When the ground rescue team finally arrived – 21 hours after it had set out – 26 rescuers were on the ground. They warmed and treated the injured and prepared them for medical evacuation. A Twin Huey helicopter from Alert made three trips to bring the survivors back to the station.
Once again this year, personnel at Alert will conduct a parade on October 30 to commemorate the crash. The parade will begin at 4:30 p.m. and continue through the 4:40 p.m. timing when the crash occurred.
“Twenty-four years ago during Operation Boxtop, the Canadian Armed Forces lost five souls – Captain John Couch, Captain Judy Trépanier, Master Warrant Officer Robert Grimsley and Master Corporal Roland Pitre – due to the harshness of the weather here at Alert when their plane crashed in an attempt to resupply the station,” said the acting commanding officer of Canadian Forces Station Alert, Captain Larry Hocken.
“These flights are our lifeline to the rest of Canada. We will remember the five who died [during one of those flights] at our memorial parade, which is dedicated to them. Our hearts still go out to the families who have suffered in this tragic event.”
Petty Officer 1 (retired) Dave Highsted attended the 2010 ceremony and said he had mixed feelings during the event.
“Sadness, for I remembered the death of an old friend and the injuries incurred by three men I had worked with over my years in the communications research trade, but also I felt a great sense of satisfaction at being able to be a participant in the memorial service.
“My last Alert tour was in the spring of 1994 so this was my first opportunity to be on the ground in Alert, and pay my respects personally to those who perished in the crash and remember those who had been so gravely injured on that day almost 20 years ago – a long overdue personal closure.”
The downed Hercules remains at the crash site to this day, preserved by the desert-like Arctic conditions.
The crash toll
Deceased
Captain John Couch, pilot, 435 Transport Squadron, Edmonton, Alberta
Captain Judy Trépanier, logistics officer, Canadian Forces Communication Command Headquarters, Ottawa, Ontario
Master Warrant Officer Tom Jardine, regional services manager CANEX, Canadian Forces Base Trenton, Ontario
Warrant Officer Robert Grimsley, supply technician, Canadian Forces Communication Command Headquarters, Ottawa
Master Corporal Roland Pitre, traffic technician, 435 Squadron
Rescued
Robert Thomson, civilian, Canadian Forces Base Trenton
Susan Hillier, civilian, Canadian Forces Base Trenton
Captain Richard Dumoulin, logistics officer, Canadian Forces Communication Command Headquarters
Captain Wilma DeGroot, doctor, Canadian Forces Base Trenton
Lieutenant Joe Bales, pilot, 435 Squadron
Lieutenant Mike Moore, navigator, 435 Squadron
Master Warrant Officer Marc Tremblay, supply technician, Canadian Forces Communication Command Headquarters
Sergeant Paul West, flight engineer, 435 Squadron
Master Corporal Tony Cobden, communications researcher, 770 Communication Research Squadron, Gander, Newfoundland
Master Corporal David Meace, radio technician, 1 Canadian Division Headquarters and Signal Squadron, Canadian Forces Base Kingston, Ontario
Master Corporal Mario Ellefsen, communications researcher, Canadian Forces Station Leitrim, Ottawa
Master Seaman “Monty” Montgomery, communications researcher, Canadian Forces Station Leitrim
Private Bill Vance, communications researcher, Canadian Forces Station Leitrim
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Post by doccreed on Jul 28, 2018 21:44:49 GMT
You're both right - one is an isolated ice station up North and the other is an isolated hotel, snowed in and inaccessible, with people inside going slowly crazy!
The difference is that all the people I spent time with were military - well, almost all - there were a few DOE (Department of the Environment) folks there as well.
I was the Station librarian - I think that job was bonus pay at around $150 a month (this was 25 years ago so that wasn't too bad for the amount of work involved). I was also a disc jockey at the radio station up there - it was called CHAR for some reason.
We did go on a couple of trips - one was to the ice caves and the other was to a fishing cabin. Luckily it was light when I got up there and it started to get dark when it was time to leave in September.
We lived in these long trailers and each one was a "house" with various themes.
We also got to go to Thule in Greenland where we participated in what was called the Boxtop Olympics. The Hercs would come up and it was called Operation Boxtop. They were resupplying the station in the summer, while the weather was still good.
There is actually a book written about a Hercules that crashed up there around the end of October in 1991.
The following is from the Royal Canadian Air Force website:
[By the way I knew one of the survivors - her name is Susan Hillier and she was the maid of honor at my wedding to Josh's Dad, Frank.]
News Article / October 30, 2015
Every year, in the cold and darkness of late October, personnel at Canadian Forces Station Alert on Ellesmere Island, Nunavut, gather at a cairn near the runway to remember the crew and passengers of Hercules 130322 who lost their lives during a resupply mission to the station.
On October 30, 1991, at approximately 4:40 p.m., flight 22 of Operation Boxtop – as the biannual resupply mission is called – was on its final approach to the station from Thule Air Force Base in Greenland. As the CC-130 Hercules from 435 Transport and Rescue Squadron, loaded with 3,400 litres of diesel fuel, began its descent, the pilot flying lost sight of the runway.
Moments later, radar contact and communication were lost as the aircraft crashed approximately 16 kilometres south of the station. The crew of another CC-130 Hercules, also bound for Alert, saw the fires of the crash and identified the location of Boxtop 22.
The crash took the lives of five Canadian Armed Forces members – four died in the crash and one perished before help arrived – and led to the boldest and most massive air disaster rescue mission ever undertaken by the Canadian military in the High Arctic. Thirteen lives were saved.
Within a half hour of the rescue call, a Hercules carrying 12 search and rescue technicians from 440 Search and Rescue Squadron in Edmonton, Alberta, was in the air. It reached the crash site seven and a half hours later, but the SAR technicians couldn’t descend due to the weather. Another Hercules from 413 Search and Rescue Squadron in Greenwood, Nova Scotia, soon joined the search. Meanwhile, search and rescue technicians formed a ground rescue team at Alert and set out overland for the crash site, guided through the darkness and horrendous weather conditions by a Hercules.
The survivors, some soaked in diesel fuel, endured high winds and temperatures between -20C and -30C. Many sheltered in the tail section of the downed aircraft but others were more exposed to the elements.
Finally, the 413 Squadron team finally got a break in the weather and six SAR technicians parachuted into the site more than 32 hours after the crash and began looking for survivors. They were joined soon after by more SAR technicians. When the ground rescue team finally arrived – 21 hours after it had set out – 26 rescuers were on the ground. They warmed and treated the injured and prepared them for medical evacuation. A Twin Huey helicopter from Alert made three trips to bring the survivors back to the station.
Once again this year, personnel at Alert will conduct a parade on October 30 to commemorate the crash. The parade will begin at 4:30 p.m. and continue through the 4:40 p.m. timing when the crash occurred.
“Twenty-four years ago during Operation Boxtop, the Canadian Armed Forces lost five souls – Captain John Couch, Captain Judy Trépanier, Master Warrant Officer Robert Grimsley and Master Corporal Roland Pitre – due to the harshness of the weather here at Alert when their plane crashed in an attempt to resupply the station,” said the acting commanding officer of Canadian Forces Station Alert, Captain Larry Hocken.
“These flights are our lifeline to the rest of Canada. We will remember the five who died [during one of those flights] at our memorial parade, which is dedicated to them. Our hearts still go out to the families who have suffered in this tragic event.”
Petty Officer 1 (retired) Dave Highsted attended the 2010 ceremony and said he had mixed feelings during the event.
“Sadness, for I remembered the death of an old friend and the injuries incurred by three men I had worked with over my years in the communications research trade, but also I felt a great sense of satisfaction at being able to be a participant in the memorial service.
“My last Alert tour was in the spring of 1994 so this was my first opportunity to be on the ground in Alert, and pay my respects personally to those who perished in the crash and remember those who had been so gravely injured on that day almost 20 years ago – a long overdue personal closure.”
The downed Hercules remains at the crash site to this day, preserved by the desert-like Arctic conditions.
The crash toll
Deceased
Captain John Couch, pilot, 435 Transport Squadron, Edmonton, Alberta
Captain Judy Trépanier, logistics officer, Canadian Forces Communication Command Headquarters, Ottawa, Ontario
Master Warrant Officer Tom Jardine, regional services manager CANEX, Canadian Forces Base Trenton, Ontario
Warrant Officer Robert Grimsley, supply technician, Canadian Forces Communication Command Headquarters, Ottawa
Master Corporal Roland Pitre, traffic technician, 435 Squadron
Rescued
Robert Thomson, civilian, Canadian Forces Base Trenton
Susan Hillier, civilian, Canadian Forces Base Trenton
Captain Richard Dumoulin, logistics officer, Canadian Forces Communication Command Headquarters
Captain Wilma DeGroot, doctor, Canadian Forces Base Trenton
Lieutenant Joe Bales, pilot, 435 Squadron
Lieutenant Mike Moore, navigator, 435 Squadron
Master Warrant Officer Marc Tremblay, supply technician, Canadian Forces Communication Command Headquarters
Sergeant Paul West, flight engineer, 435 Squadron
Master Corporal Tony Cobden, communications researcher, 770 Communication Research Squadron, Gander, Newfoundland
Master Corporal David Meace, radio technician, 1 Canadian Division Headquarters and Signal Squadron, Canadian Forces Base Kingston, Ontario
Master Corporal Mario Ellefsen, communications researcher, Canadian Forces Station Leitrim, Ottawa
Master Seaman “Monty” Montgomery, communications researcher, Canadian Forces Station Leitrim
Private Bill Vance, communications researcher, Canadian Forces Station Leitrim
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Post by neesy on Jul 28, 2018 22:05:16 GMT
You're both right - one is an isolated ice station up North and the other is an isolated hotel, snowed in and inaccessible, with people inside going slowly crazy!
The difference is that all the people I spent time with were military - well, almost all - there were a few DOE (Department of the Environment) folks there as well.
I was the Station librarian - I think that job was bonus pay at around $150 a month (this was 25 years ago so that wasn't too bad for the amount of work involved). I was also a disc jockey at the radio station up there - it was called CHAR for some reason.
We did go on a couple of trips - one was to the ice caves and the other was to a fishing cabin. Luckily it was light when I got up there and it started to get dark when it was time to leave in September.
We lived in these long trailers and each one was a "house" with various themes.
We also got to go to Thule in Greenland where we participated in what was called the Boxtop Olympics. The Hercs would come up and it was called Operation Boxtop. They were resupplying the station in the summer, while the weather was still good.
There is actually a book written about a Hercules that crashed up there around the end of October in 1991.
The following is from the Royal Canadian Air Force website:
[By the way I knew one of the survivors - her name is Susan Hillier and she was the maid of honor at my wedding to Josh's Dad, Frank.]
News Article / October 30, 2015
Every year, in the cold and darkness of late October, personnel at Canadian Forces Station Alert on Ellesmere Island, Nunavut, gather at a cairn near the runway to remember the crew and passengers of Hercules 130322 who lost their lives during a resupply mission to the station.
On October 30, 1991, at approximately 4:40 p.m., flight 22 of Operation Boxtop – as the biannual resupply mission is called – was on its final approach to the station from Thule Air Force Base in Greenland. As the CC-130 Hercules from 435 Transport and Rescue Squadron, loaded with 3,400 litres of diesel fuel, began its descent, the pilot flying lost sight of the runway.
Moments later, radar contact and communication were lost as the aircraft crashed approximately 16 kilometres south of the station. The crew of another CC-130 Hercules, also bound for Alert, saw the fires of the crash and identified the location of Boxtop 22.
The crash took the lives of five Canadian Armed Forces members – four died in the crash and one perished before help arrived – and led to the boldest and most massive air disaster rescue mission ever undertaken by the Canadian military in the High Arctic. Thirteen lives were saved.
Within a half hour of the rescue call, a Hercules carrying 12 search and rescue technicians from 440 Search and Rescue Squadron in Edmonton, Alberta, was in the air. It reached the crash site seven and a half hours later, but the SAR technicians couldn’t descend due to the weather. Another Hercules from 413 Search and Rescue Squadron in Greenwood, Nova Scotia, soon joined the search. Meanwhile, search and rescue technicians formed a ground rescue team at Alert and set out overland for the crash site, guided through the darkness and horrendous weather conditions by a Hercules.
The survivors, some soaked in diesel fuel, endured high winds and temperatures between -20C and -30C. Many sheltered in the tail section of the downed aircraft but others were more exposed to the elements.
Finally, the 413 Squadron team finally got a break in the weather and six SAR technicians parachuted into the site more than 32 hours after the crash and began looking for survivors. They were joined soon after by more SAR technicians. When the ground rescue team finally arrived – 21 hours after it had set out – 26 rescuers were on the ground. They warmed and treated the injured and prepared them for medical evacuation. A Twin Huey helicopter from Alert made three trips to bring the survivors back to the station.
Once again this year, personnel at Alert will conduct a parade on October 30 to commemorate the crash. The parade will begin at 4:30 p.m. and continue through the 4:40 p.m. timing when the crash occurred.
“Twenty-four years ago during Operation Boxtop, the Canadian Armed Forces lost five souls – Captain John Couch, Captain Judy Trépanier, Master Warrant Officer Robert Grimsley and Master Corporal Roland Pitre – due to the harshness of the weather here at Alert when their plane crashed in an attempt to resupply the station,” said the acting commanding officer of Canadian Forces Station Alert, Captain Larry Hocken.
“These flights are our lifeline to the rest of Canada. We will remember the five who died [during one of those flights] at our memorial parade, which is dedicated to them. Our hearts still go out to the families who have suffered in this tragic event.”
Petty Officer 1 (retired) Dave Highsted attended the 2010 ceremony and said he had mixed feelings during the event.
“Sadness, for I remembered the death of an old friend and the injuries incurred by three men I had worked with over my years in the communications research trade, but also I felt a great sense of satisfaction at being able to be a participant in the memorial service.
“My last Alert tour was in the spring of 1994 so this was my first opportunity to be on the ground in Alert, and pay my respects personally to those who perished in the crash and remember those who had been so gravely injured on that day almost 20 years ago – a long overdue personal closure.”
The downed Hercules remains at the crash site to this day, preserved by the desert-like Arctic conditions.
The crash toll
Deceased
Captain John Couch, pilot, 435 Transport Squadron, Edmonton, Alberta
Captain Judy Trépanier, logistics officer, Canadian Forces Communication Command Headquarters, Ottawa, Ontario
Master Warrant Officer Tom Jardine, regional services manager CANEX, Canadian Forces Base Trenton, Ontario
Warrant Officer Robert Grimsley, supply technician, Canadian Forces Communication Command Headquarters, Ottawa
Master Corporal Roland Pitre, traffic technician, 435 Squadron
Rescued
Robert Thomson, civilian, Canadian Forces Base Trenton
Susan Hillier, civilian, Canadian Forces Base Trenton
Captain Richard Dumoulin, logistics officer, Canadian Forces Communication Command Headquarters
Captain Wilma DeGroot, doctor, Canadian Forces Base Trenton
Lieutenant Joe Bales, pilot, 435 Squadron
Lieutenant Mike Moore, navigator, 435 Squadron
Master Warrant Officer Marc Tremblay, supply technician, Canadian Forces Communication Command Headquarters
Sergeant Paul West, flight engineer, 435 Squadron
Master Corporal Tony Cobden, communications researcher, 770 Communication Research Squadron, Gander, Newfoundland
Master Corporal David Meace, radio technician, 1 Canadian Division Headquarters and Signal Squadron, Canadian Forces Base Kingston, Ontario
Master Corporal Mario Ellefsen, communications researcher, Canadian Forces Station Leitrim, Ottawa
Master Seaman “Monty” Montgomery, communications researcher, Canadian Forces Station Leitrim
Private Bill Vance, communications researcher, Canadian Forces Station Leitrim
I don't think Scott knows - we had vinyl records back then. I had a Saturday night show and most of the people were in their houses drinking and partying. However I did not have to answer the phone or respond to requests if I did not want to.
I do recall the song Thunderstruck by AC/DC as being one that they wanted me to play over and over.
I worked in the Orderly Room as I was an Admin Clerk at that time (later they combined two trades - Finance Clerk and Admin Clerk and called us RSM clerks) - [Resource Management Support] clerks; (where is that rolling eyes smiley?)
It was busy enough if you wanted to drown yourself in paperwork I guess.
Mostly I went to the gym every day and also went cross country skiing at the beginning, but then the snow melted. I used to be a real gym rat.
Wanna see a pic of me from then? I think I look a bit geeky with my 90s eyeglasses.
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Post by doccreed on Jul 28, 2018 22:10:08 GMT
Of course.
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Post by neesy on Jul 29, 2018 15:36:57 GMT
Of course.  Okay - that's weird - I cannot seem to find it in my computer - I will have to go to Facebook, copy and save it, then come back  |
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Post by neesy on Jul 29, 2018 15:53:12 GMT
I was in my mid 30s back then but still wore glasses, as they did not have the laser eye surgery to correct your vision yet. I got that later, in 2004.
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Post by morgan on Jul 29, 2018 15:57:38 GMT
I was in my mid 30s back then but still wore glasses, as they did not have the laser eye surgery to correct your vision yet. I got that later, in 2004.
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Post by neesy on Jul 29, 2018 16:05:29 GMT
I was in my mid 30s back then but still wore glasses, as they did not have the laser eye surgery to correct your vision yet. I got that later, in 2004.
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Post by morgan on Jul 29, 2018 16:09:32 GMT
Great pic neesy ! Thanks for sharing. (I still wear glasses. ) I just noticed that that is one creepy looking 'reindeer' standing behind me and Santa! |
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Post by doccreed on Jul 29, 2018 17:56:42 GMT
I was in my mid 30s back then but still wore glasses, as they did not have the laser eye surgery to correct your vision yet. I got that later, in 2004.
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Post by morgan on Jul 29, 2018 18:01:35 GMT
I was in my mid 30s back then but still wore glasses, as they did not have the laser eye surgery to correct your vision yet. I got that later, in 2004.
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Post by doccreed on Aug 3, 2018 20:30:38 GMT
Pet Sematary is leading the pack. I'm surprised Gerald's Game is beating 'Salem's Lot.
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Post by Wicked Esther on Aug 4, 2020 14:50:46 GMT
The Regulators scares the hell out of me.
I can't think of a fictional character that scares me more than Tak... except maybe Ardelia Lortz from The Library Policeman.
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