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Post by spideyman on Feb 1, 2019 15:05:30 GMT
As psychically terrifying as Firestarter, and with the spectacular kid power of It, The Institute is Stephen King’s gut-wrenchingly dramatic story of good vs. evil in a world where the good guys don’t always win. The Institute hits shelves September 10th, 2019 here’s the official synopsis: “In the middle of the night, in a house on a quiet street in suburban Minneapolis, intruders murder Luke Ellis’ parents and load him into a black SUV. Luke will wake up at The Institute, in a room that looks just like his own, except there’s no window. And outside his door are other doors, behind which are other kids with special talents — telekinesis and telepathy — who got to this place the same way Luke did. In this most sinister of institutions, the staff is ruthlessly dedicated to extracting from these children the force of their extranormal gifts. As each new victim disappears, Luke becomes more and more desperate to get out and get help. But no one has ever escaped from The Institute.” EW article and cover revealed.
ew.com/books/2019/02/01/stephen-king-the-institute-first-look/
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Post by osnafrank on Feb 1, 2019 18:55:34 GMT
Sounds like an interesting Book and the Synopsis is very nice
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Post by neesy on Feb 2, 2019 0:36:35 GMT
As psychically terrifying as Firestarter, and with the spectacular kid power of It, The Institute is Stephen King’s gut-wrenchingly dramatic story of good vs. evil in a world where the good guys don’t always win. The Institute hits shelves September 10th, 2019 here’s the official synopsis: “In the middle of the night, in a house on a quiet street in suburban Minneapolis, intruders murder Luke Ellis’ parents and load him into a black SUV. Luke will wake up at The Institute, in a room that looks just like his own, except there’s no window. And outside his door are other doors, behind which are other kids with special talents — telekinesis and telepathy — who got to this place the same way Luke did. In this most sinister of institutions, the staff is ruthlessly dedicated to extracting from these children the force of their extranormal gifts. As each new victim disappears, Luke becomes more and more desperate to get out and get help. But no one has ever escaped from The Institute.” EW article and cover revealed.
ew.com/books/2019/02/01/stephen-king-the-institute-first-look/Wow! So that's what he's been up to lately - sounds like this one will be a very good one
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2019 1:22:02 GMT
So basically a concentration camp for phychic people, interesting. Seems like easy Dark Tower connections, I suppose that’s implied. Sounds good, can’t wait to read it.
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Post by kingricefan on Feb 3, 2019 3:44:18 GMT
I'm excited about this book! Is it just me or does the 'Institute' remind you of The Shop from the early King books? Maybe it is the 'new and improved' and/or updated version? Steve just kind of stopped writing about the 'Shop' after giving us some pretty cool glimpses into what went on there (Firestarter), so I'm wondering why he didn't continue writing about that place?
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Post by doccreed on Feb 5, 2019 0:54:56 GMT
I'm excited about this book! Is it just me or does the 'Institute' remind you of The Shop from the early King books? Maybe it is the 'new and improved' and/or updated version? Steve just kind of stopped writing about the 'Shop' after giving us some pretty cool glimpses into what went on there (Firestarter), so I'm wondering why he didn't continue writing about that place? Yeah, that was my first thought, too. I said as much in a couple different forums. I picked up on a possible Shop connection much quicker than any Dark Tower connections, but both seem likely. I read Firestarter again last year and I like it much more than I did years ago. I even prefer it over IT. I know, that's a killable offense to utter such a thing. They really aren't comparable, but I just like Andy's and Charlie's story better than any given character's journey in IT. Anyway, I would like to see this book be a possible modern version of The Shop and I'd be interested in seeing if King mentions Charlie McGee, Danny Torrance, or Abra Stone. I'm excited about this book also.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2019 1:33:26 GMT
I'm excited about this book! Is it just me or does the 'Institute' remind you of The Shop from the early King books? Maybe it is the 'new and improved' and/or updated version? Steve just kind of stopped writing about the 'Shop' after giving us some pretty cool glimpses into what went on there (Firestarter), so I'm wondering why he didn't continue writing about that place? Yeah, that was my first thought, too. I said as much in a couple different forums. I picked up on a possible Shop connection much quicker than any Dark Tower connections, but both seem likely. I read Firestarter again last year and I like it much more than I did years ago. I even prefer it over IT. I know, that's a killable offense to utter such a thing. They really aren't comparable, but I just like Andy's and Charlie's story better than any given character's journey in IT. Anyway, I would like to see this book be a possible modern version of The Shop and I'd be interested in seeing if King mentions Charlie McGee, Danny Torrance, or Abra Stone. I'm excited about this book also.I think Firestarter and IT have comparabilities, they’re both coming of age in their own way.
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Post by doccreed on Feb 5, 2019 2:27:41 GMT
Yeah, that was my first thought, too. I said as much in a couple different forums. I picked up on a possible Shop connection much quicker than any Dark Tower connections, but both seem likely. I read Firestarter again last year and I like it much more than I did years ago. I even prefer it over IT. I know, that's a killable offense to utter such a thing. They really aren't comparable, but I just like Andy's and Charlie's story better than any given character's journey in IT. Anyway, I would like to see this book be a possible modern version of The Shop and I'd be interested in seeing if King mentions Charlie McGee, Danny Torrance, or Abra Stone. I'm excited about this book also. I think Firestarter and IT have comparabilities, they’re both coming of age in their own way. People sometimes say it's unfair to compare longer, epic novels with short ones. This is why I was hesitant to compare them. Otherwise, yeah, it's fair game.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2019 2:38:31 GMT
I think Firestarter and IT have comparabilities, they’re both coming of age in their own way. People sometimes say it's unfair to compare longer, epic novels with short ones. This is why I was hesitant to compare them. Otherwise, yeah, it's fair game. I suppose yeah, but you seemed to be focusing on specific Archetypes.
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Post by doccreed on Feb 5, 2019 4:09:54 GMT
People sometimes say it's unfair to compare longer, epic novels with short ones. This is why I was hesitant to compare them. Otherwise, yeah, it's fair game. I suppose yeah, but you seemed to be focusing on specific Archetypes. Yeah, I liked the characters from Firestarter more than any of the main characters from IT. Just to be clear, though, I thought it unfair to compare a hulk of a novel like IT (a fairly complex narrative construction) with a straight-forward novel like Firestarter. Books like The Stand, Under the Dome, The Tommyknockers, 11/22/63, and IT are in a league of their own, I think. . Yeah, I enjoyed the main characters more than the characters from IT but, just to be clear, I hated to compare two books so different in size (and IT has a fairly complex narrative construction comparted to Firestarter).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2019 4:29:02 GMT
I suppose yeah, but you seemed to be focusing on specific Archetypes. Yeah, I liked the characters from Firestarter more than any of the main characters from IT. Just to be clear, though, I thought it unfair to compare a hulk of a novel like IT (a fairly complex narrative construction) with a straight-forward novel like Firestarter. Books like The Stand, Under the Dome, The Tommyknockers, 11/22/63, and IT are in a league of their own, I think. []
. Yeah, I enjoyed the main characters more than the characters from IT but, just to be clear, I hated to compare two books so different in size (and IT has a fairly complex narrative construction comparted to Firestarter).
nah, I got what you meant. I found the Loser’s club particularly endearing, though like a lot of people I felt that the infamous scene towards the end kind of ruined it, particularly Beverly. Not to say that ignoring that in place of the rest of the story is definitely for the best.
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Post by doccreed on Feb 9, 2019 2:11:41 GMT
The Shop appears in The Tommyknockers. I need to read it again to have full context. Does anyone remember if this is the last book in which The Shop is mentioned? There was a story about Dinky Earnshaw in Everything's Eventual but I think that involved a different organization.
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Post by spideyman on Feb 9, 2019 14:27:35 GMT
The Shop appears in The Tommyknockers. I need to read it again to have full context. Does anyone remember if this is the last book in which The Shop is mentioned? There was a story about Dinky Earnshaw in Everything's Eventual but I think that involved a different organization.
kingricefan The Shop is a fictional, top secret United States government agency, with seemingly well-meaning, but actually evil, intentions and motivations in the writings of Stephen King. It is similar to the Syndicate in The X-Files. It plays a central role as the antagonist in the novel Firestarter, the miniseries Golden Years, and the film The Lawnmower Man. It is also an element of the novel The Tommyknockers. In addition, an offhand reference hints that it may be at least partially responsible for the events of the novella The Mist. In the miniseries adaptation of The Langoliers, Bob Jenkins tosses out a government conspiracy-based theory for the conditions of the plane and refers to the theoretical agency responsible as "The Shop". In The Stand, The Shop is tasked with stopping the superflu outbreak, which it utterly fails to do. The Shop is interested in the scientific research of what might otherwise be considered paranormal phenomena, such as aliens, immortality, and paranormal or psychic powers. King has stated that the name The Shop is a reference to A. E. van Vogt's novel The Weapon Shops of Isher.
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Post by grant87 on Feb 10, 2019 2:28:31 GMT
Like everyone else, the synopsis definitely makes me think of The Shop. I read an interview with SK where he was asked which character he would like to revisit someday, and he answered Charlie McGee. Maybe she'she'll make an appearance here. Does anyone remember that interview? I can't recall where I read it.
I've also seen other King fans suggesting The Institute could be a YA novel. I hope that's not the case.
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Post by doccreed on Feb 10, 2019 2:40:08 GMT
Like everyone else, the synopsis definitely makes me think of The Shop. I read an interview with SK where he was asked which character he would like to revisit someday, and he answered Charlie McGee. Maybe she'she'll make an appearance here. Does anyone remember that interview? I can't recall where I read it. I've also seen other King fans suggesting The Institute could be a YA novel. I hope that's not the case. No, I don't know about this interview. I'd like to know if anyone finds it. Maybe leave link below. It makes sense that he'd say that, though. For years he said the two characters fans asked him about most were Charlie McGee and Danny Torrance. He's continued Danny's story, so he may do the same for her. He has been known to drop hints about the fate of characters (sometimes only a few sentences) in different books; Thad Beaumont is one who comes to mind. It remains to be seen to what extent he will write about Charlie, if at all.
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Post by spideyman on Feb 10, 2019 3:11:34 GMT
Like everyone else, the synopsis definitely makes me think of The Shop. I read an interview with SK where he was asked which character he would like to revisit someday, and he answered Charlie McGee. Maybe she'she'll make an appearance here. Does anyone remember that interview? I can't recall where I read it. I've also seen other King fans suggesting The Institute could be a YA novel. I hope that's not the case. No, I don't know about this interview. I'd like to know if anyone finds it. Maybe leave link below. It makes sense that he'd say that, though. For years he said the two characters fans asked him about most were Charlie McGee and Danny Torrance. He's continued Danny's story, so he may do the same for her. He has been known to drop hints about the fate of characters (sometimes only a few sentences) in different books; Thad Beaumont is one who comes to mind. It remains to be seen to what extent he will write about Charlie, if at all. doccreed ck out the last part of this article:
www.stephenkingrevisited.com/revisiting-firestarter-by-richard-chizmar/
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Post by grant87 on Feb 10, 2019 5:44:13 GMT
No, I don't know about this interview. I'd like to know if anyone finds it. Maybe leave link below. It makes sense that he'd say that, though. For years he said the two characters fans asked him about most were Charlie McGee and Danny Torrance. He's continued Danny's story, so he may do the same for her. He has been known to drop hints about the fate of characters (sometimes only a few sentences) in different books; Thad Beaumont is one who comes to mind. It remains to be seen to what extent he will write about Charlie, if at all. doccreed ck out the last part of this article:
www.stephenkingrevisited.com/revisiting-firestarter-by-richard-chizmar/Thank you! That's where I remember reading it.
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Post by doccreed on Feb 10, 2019 14:30:34 GMT
No, I don't know about this interview. I'd like to know if anyone finds it. Maybe leave link below. It makes sense that he'd say that, though. For years he said the two characters fans asked him about most were Charlie McGee and Danny Torrance. He's continued Danny's story, so he may do the same for her. He has been known to drop hints about the fate of characters (sometimes only a few sentences) in different books; Thad Beaumont is one who comes to mind. It remains to be seen to what extent he will write about Charlie, if at all. doccreed ck out the last part of this article:
www.stephenkingrevisited.com/revisiting-firestarter-by-richard-chizmar/ Thank you. Yes, I remember reading this back in 2015. I am glad to know where to find it now. I enjoyed following Vincent's and Chizmar's progress through a King reread.
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Post by kingricefan on Feb 17, 2019 1:56:34 GMT
The Shop appears in The Tommyknockers. I need to read it again to have full context. Does anyone remember if this is the last book in which The Shop is mentioned? There was a story about Dinky Earnshaw in Everything's Eventual but I think that involved a different organization.
kingricefan I'm not quite certain where the last mention of The Shop is myself. Sorry Doc!
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Post by spideyman on Feb 17, 2019 3:42:34 GMT
The Shop appears in The Tommyknockers. I need to read it again to have full context. Does anyone remember if this is the last book in which The Shop is mentioned? There was a story about Dinky Earnshaw in Everything's Eventual but I think that involved a different organization.
kingricefan I'm not quite certain where the last mention of The Shop is myself. Sorry Doc! Possible helpful info:
{Spoiler} The Shop is a fictional, top secret United States government agency, with seemingly well-meaning, but actually evil, intentions and motivations in the writings of Stephen King. It is similar to the Syndicate in The X-Files. It plays a central role as the antagonist in the novel Firestarter, the miniseries Golden Years, and the film The Lawnmower Man. It is also an element of the novel The Tommyknockers. In addition, an offhand reference hints that it may be at least partially responsible for the events of the novella The Mist. In the miniseries adaptation of The Langoliers, Bob Jenkins tosses out a government conspiracy-based theory for the conditions of the plane and refers to the theoretical agency responsible as "The Shop". In The Stand, The Shop is tasked with stopping the superflu outbreak, which it utterly fails to do. The Shop is interested in the scientific research of what might otherwise be considered paranormal phenomena, such as aliens, immortality, and paranormal or psychic powers.
The formal name of the agency is the U.S. Department of Scientific Intelligence. In addition to research staff, the Shop also employs armed agents who typically work undercover and pursue their goals with an utter disregard for morality or the rule of law. King keeps the extent of the Shop's legal legitimacy, as well as the exact nature of its relationship with other government agencies, vague. The Shop's director in Firestarter is Captain James "Cap" Hollister.
King has stated that the name The Shop is a reference to A. E. van Vogt's novel The Weapon Shops of Isher.[1]
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