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Post by wireman on Oct 13, 2021 12:18:49 GMT
Today, we will discuss The Two Drovers by Sir Walter Scott
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Post by edwardjohn on Oct 13, 2021 16:58:31 GMT
I love this story. Its essentially Scott's take on differing cultures amongst the single nation state, the idea that certain cultural values have to be sacrificed to become this new, conglomerate one. Once independent nations uniting in unions was a pretty common occurrence at this period of history, and this is Scott's summation of what is good/bad about them. On the good side, you've got multiple new opportunities that wouldn't have been there otherwise; on the bad side: certain cultural norms have to put to one side. Scott was essentially saying that Highlanders had to sacrifice parts of what made them them in order to be a part of this new nation, Great Britain. Regardless of whether you agree with Scott's conclusions, its a brilliant tale.
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Post by spideyman on Oct 13, 2021 17:47:15 GMT
An enjoyable short story. Allows the reader to feel for both men. A cross-cultural friendship between a Scot and an Englishman is central to "The Two Drovers."
Unfortunately, it proves unable to withstand the strain of a misunderstanding, and the dominance of English culture and law.
Added in was the role of superstition and witchcraft, thus giving the reader the taste of the lore and mythology within Scottish life.
The English legal systems wins out in the end. Cultural differences won over friendship.
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Post by wireman on Oct 13, 2021 23:02:55 GMT
This is a wonderful story told at a bit of a leisurely pace. It's a mini history as well as an entertaining story. Scott shows the customs of the different communities. The two friends represent the strained relationship between England and Scotland as the two men have different views on culture and honor. The story is about the Highlander notion of honor.
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Post by wireman on Oct 14, 2021 12:13:05 GMT
Next Wednesday, we will discuss The Gingerbread Girl by Stephen King from Just After Sunset
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Post by edwardjohn on Oct 14, 2021 12:26:33 GMT
This is a wonderful story told at a bit of a leisurely pace. It's a mini history as well as an entertaining story. Scott shows the customs of the different communities. The two friends represent the strained relationship between England and Scotland as the two men have different views on culture and honor. The story is about the Highlander notion of honor.
It also, interestingly, showed the differences amongst Scots themselves. There's a Lowland character that is the voice of reason in many instances; the Lowlands come from, as the name suggests, the more southern part of Scotland, and are much more anglicised (more English) than their northern (Highlander) counterparts. In many ways Scott portrays the Lowlander of being the perfect member of the union; he's got the "best" traits of the Scot and the Englishman; Scott himself was a Lowlander, coming from the borders, so this may have also been a factor.
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Post by edwardjohn on Oct 14, 2021 12:28:34 GMT
An enjoyable short story. Allows the reader to feel for both men. A cross-cultural friendship between a Scot and an Englishman is central to "The Two Drovers."
Unfortunately, it proves unable to withstand the strain of a misunderstanding, and the dominance of English culture and law.
Added in was the role of superstition and witchcraft, thus giving the reader the taste of the lore and mythology within Scottish life.
The English legal systems wins out in the end. Cultural differences won over friendship. Yep, cultural differences certainly won over friendship with the case of the Highlander. Interestingly though, the Englishman and the Lowland Scot were willing to let bygones be bygones; so you could make an argument that this is Scott's general criticism of Highland character, and what they had to do to change to be important contributors to Great Britain.
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Post by wireman on Oct 18, 2021 15:39:39 GMT
Next Wednesday, we will discuss The Gingerbread Girl by Stephen King from Just After Sunset
bump
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Post by edwardjohn on Oct 18, 2021 19:19:00 GMT
Next Wednesday, we will discuss The Gingerbread Girl by Stephen King from Just After Sunset
bump I got the book on Monday! I'm going to miss frantically searching for audio versions, though.
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Post by Wicked Esther on Oct 19, 2021 18:58:14 GMT
Next Wednesday, we will discuss The Gingerbread Girl by Stephen King from Just After Sunset
Looking forward to this--I'll read fast to be ready! I've had the book forever, but haven't read anything from it yet. ( )
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Post by wireman on Oct 19, 2021 20:37:34 GMT
Next Wednesday, we will discuss The Gingerbread Girl by Stephen King from Just After Sunset
Looking forward to this--I'll read fast to be ready! I've had the book forever, but haven't read anything from it yet. ( ) Good to see you again.
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Post by Wicked Esther on Oct 20, 2021 1:11:48 GMT
Looking forward to this--I'll read fast to be ready! I've had the book forever, but haven't read anything from it yet. ( ) Good to see you again. Thank you. It's nice to be back & good to see you again, too. 😎
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