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Post by Wicked Esther on Aug 14, 2020 15:31:57 GMT
So I started reading this last night. I think I'm up to chapter 15 (they're short), and I'm curious as to who has read it and what your thoughts are.
I was mentally preparing myself to really dislike the main character, but so far Charlie Decker is actually quite relatable.....which is kind of disturbing.
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Post by osnafrank on Aug 14, 2020 15:48:22 GMT
So I started reading this last night. I think I'm up to chapter 15 (they're short), and I'm curious as to who has read it and what your thoughts are. I was mentally preparing myself to really dislike the main character, but so far Charlie Decker is actually quite relatable.....which is kind of disturbing.
I also thought i wouldn`t like the main character and was totally puzzled
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Post by Wicked Esther on Aug 14, 2020 16:02:48 GMT
So I started reading this last night. I think I'm up to chapter 15 (they're short), and I'm curious as to who has read it and what your thoughts are. I was mentally preparing myself to really dislike the main character, but so far Charlie Decker is actually quite relatable.....which is kind of disturbing.
I also thought i wouldn`t like the main character and was totally puzzled
because sometimes he actually made me laugh/snickers.Yes! I expected this to be very unpleasant to read--and I know I have a ways to go--but the tone of the story (so far) is no where near as dark and depressing as Joe Hill's 'Loaded'. We'll see how things progress.... right now my thought is that I don't condone Charlie's actions, but at the same I don't dislike him. |
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Post by Ceefor on Aug 15, 2020 12:05:41 GMT
I've only just received the Bachman books, so I haven't actually started to read this story yet, even though I'm familiar with the other three.
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Rage
Aug 15, 2020 17:07:49 GMT
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Post by Wicked Esther on Aug 15, 2020 17:07:49 GMT
I've only just received the Bachman books, so I haven't actually started to read this story yet, even though I'm familiar with the other three. I’d love to hear your thoughts whenever you get to it. I’m about half way through it now and still feeling sympathetic toward Charlie even though I know I’m not “ supposed to”. |
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Rage
Aug 18, 2020 20:47:16 GMT
Post by Wicked Esther on Aug 18, 2020 20:47:16 GMT
Some thoughts about Rage before I move on and my memory gets fogged up by the next story.....
I thought this was a beautifully written novel, and I'm very sad that SK felt morally obligated to pull it out of publication. It's too bad that the focus on it couldn't have been shifted from school shootings to the very real need that a lot of young people have for mental health services.
My mind keeps going back to one of the letters Charlie received while he was hospitalized. I keep wondering what Pig Pen and Dick Keane did that was so controversial it had to be censored because it would have upset the patient.
Also the big question that was raised--How do you know your life is real?
Do you know it's real when you can feel pain? Or when you realize you have a secret you have to keep, out of choice or necessity?
So many interesting ideas and characters to think about.....I'm definitely gonna read this one again.
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Aug 18, 2020 21:30:19 GMT
Post by His Majesty on Aug 18, 2020 21:30:19 GMT
I've only just received the Bachman books, so I haven't actually started to read this story yet, even though I'm familiar with the other three. I’d love to hear your thoughts whenever you get to it. I’m about half way through it now and still feeling sympathetic toward Charlie even though I know I’m not “ supposed to”. |
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Aug 18, 2020 21:46:00 GMT
Post by Wicked Esther on Aug 18, 2020 21:46:00 GMT
I’d love to hear your thoughts whenever you get to it. I’m about half way through it now and still feeling sympathetic toward Charlie even though I know I’m not “ supposed to”. Yeah. I sympathize with troubled characters— Carrie White is another one. Kind of an underdog who just gets pushed too far. I know I’m not supposed to approve of their actions, but it’s so easy to identify with the insecurity and feelings that lead them to the brink of disaster. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2020 21:48:44 GMT
Rage is one of my faves. I also think its a pity thats its pulled from publishing, its a great story. Worth reading more than once. I once wrote an article in a swedish newspaper about youth novels and i mentioned this one as a great example because it actually was about problems that youths can experience in real life. Not a happy story but a real good one.
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Post by Steffen on Aug 29, 2020 23:29:31 GMT
I actually read the book when I was in secondary school, maybe a couple of years younger than the main character. I remember enjoying it a great deal, and it demonstrates King's ability to tap into characters of all ages and backgrounds.
Of course, I read this back in the day when parents taught their kids common sense so I didn't have the urge to go on a shooting spree or anything like that.  I understand now why King chose to take it out of print. |
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Post by Wicked Esther on Aug 31, 2020 15:10:21 GMT
I actually read the book when I was in secondary school, maybe a couple of years younger than the main character. I remember enjoying it a great deal, and it demonstrates King's ability to tap into characters of all ages and backgrounds.
Of course, I read this back in the day when parents taught their kids common sense so I didn't have the urge to go on a shooting spree or anything like that. I understand now why King chose to take it out of print. Thanks--that's an interesting point you brought up. I've wondered if I would have enjoyed the story more or less if I had read when I was younger. |
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Post by Dizzy on May 27, 2022 17:21:32 GMT
My Friend Ryan Tell Me There Isa Stephen King Book Story That is Banned These Days ...I J/W If This True Or Not?  
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Post by wolf on May 27, 2022 17:29:11 GMT
My Friend Ryan Tell Me There Isa Stephen King Book Story That is Banned These Days ...I J/W If This True Or Not?
Mr. King has said he will not allow his Bachman story, "Rage" to be printed again.
I think that us the general gist of the situation,
I'm sure Lady spideyman knows more than I do. 🙂
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rage_(King_novel) |
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Post by Dizzy on May 27, 2022 17:37:01 GMT
My Friend Ryan Tell Me There Isa Stephen King Book Story That is Banned These Days ...I J/W If This True Or Not?
Mr. King has said he will not allow his Bachman story, "Rage" to be printed again.
I think that us the general gist of the situation,
I'm sure Lady spideyman knows more than I do. 🙂
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rage_(King_novel) |
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Post by spideyman on May 27, 2022 17:46:25 GMT
My Friend Ryan Tell Me There Isa Stephen King Book Story That is Banned These Days ...I J/W If This True Or Not?
Mr. King has said he will not allow his Bachman story, "Rage" to be printed again.
I think that us the general gist of the situation,
I'm sure Lady spideyman knows more than I do. 🙂
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rage_(King_novel)Yes: Violence and media I want to be fair to Stephen King. Here's what he says: My book did not break [school shooters] or turn them into killers; they found something in my book that spoke to them because they were already broken. Yet I did see Rage as a possible accelerant, which is why I pulled it from sale. You don't leave a can of gasoline where a boy with firebug tendencies can lay hands on it. |
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Post by wolf on May 27, 2022 17:48:15 GMT
Yes: Violence and media I want to be fair to Stephen King. Here's what he says: My book did not break [school shooters] or turn them into killers; they found something in my book that spoke to them because they were already broken. Yet I did see Rage as a possible accelerant, which is why I pulled it from sale. You don't leave a can of gasoline where a boy with firebug tendencies can lay hands on it.
Appreciate the help. 🙂 |
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Post by Dizzy on May 27, 2022 18:01:39 GMT
Yes: Violence and media I want to be fair to Stephen King. Here's what he says: My book did not break [school shooters] or turn them into killers; they found something in my book that spoke to them because they were already broken. Yet I did see Rage as a possible accelerant, which is why I pulled it from sale. You don't leave a can of gasoline where a boy with firebug tendencies can lay hands on it. |
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Post by wolf on May 27, 2022 18:19:10 GMT
My Friend Ryan Tell Me There Isa Stephen King Book Story That is Banned These Days ...I J/W If This True Or Not? Yes: Violence and media I want to be fair to Stephen King. Here's what he says: My book did not break [school shooters] or turn them into killers; they found something in my book that spoke to them because they were already broken. Yet I did see Rage as a possible accelerant, which is why I pulled it from sale. You don't leave a can of gasoline where a boy with firebug tendencies can lay hands on it.
I've moved all our posts to here.
Hope that's okay. 🙂  |
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Post by darkharbinger on May 27, 2022 21:18:12 GMT
Charlie Decker in Rage is a lot like the kid in Apt Pupil. You want to dislike him, but you just can't quite.
SK is good at that trope. The whole point of the Dead Zone was to make an presidential assassin the good guy.
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Post by wolf on May 27, 2022 23:05:47 GMT
Charlie Decker in Rage is a lot like the kid in Apt Pupil. You want to dislike him, but you just can't quite. SK is good at that trope. The whole point of the Dead Zone was to make an presidential assassin the good guy.
I found Charlie to be a character the reader could sympathize with, and feel for. 💔
To certain extent, of course.
I felt like Charlie may have been...'fragile' possibly more sensitive emotionally than his peer group...and things that happened to him turned and warped him.
When it comes to Todd in 'Apt Pupil' I have to cordially differ with you, JB. 🙂
When reading THAT story, I felt like Todd was just no good, evil and rotten to the core from the get go....He wasn't 'broken'...he was NEVER 'geared right' at anytime, in heart or mind.
"The Dead Zone" 🙂
wow...what a hidden battle of good and evil went on there.
Appearances can be so deceiving.
Yes, the nutcase assassin would be forever be seen as the NUT and bad guys, because knew what he knew, and the pres candidate was the real crazyassed danger....Johnny had the 'Cassandra dilemma' going on big time, and he knew it. And he was brave enough to go do what had to be done no matter what history would say about him. I think. 🙂
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I understand now why King chose to take it out of print.
