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Post by osnafrank on Jul 2, 2020 15:55:40 GMT
I could have sworn I had a copy of Duma Key and I was all excited to read that next, but I can’t find it anywhere.😩 So help me out, guys...pick one of these for me, please. I’ve never read anything by Dean Koontz before. I’m leaning toward The Husband, mainly because it has larger type and my eyeballs are tired. View Attachment I'm not a big Koontz fan but "Whispering Room" was pretty good.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2020 15:59:23 GMT
I could have sworn I had a copy of Duma Key and I was all excited to read that next, but I can’t find it anywhere.😩 So help me out, guys...pick one of these for me, please. I’ve never read anything by Dean Koontz before. I’m leaning toward The Husband, mainly because it has larger type and my eyeballs are tired. Yup... The Husband.
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Post by Wicked Esther on Jul 2, 2020 17:10:50 GMT
I could have sworn I had a copy of Duma Key and I was all excited to read that next, but I can’t find it anywhere.😩 So help me out, guys...pick one of these for me, please. I’ve never read anything by Dean Koontz before. I’m leaning toward The Husband, mainly because it has larger type and my eyeballs are tired. Yup... The Husband. Yeah, I guess I'll go with this one. I have to say that I really don't like the cover...and the teaser on the front about getting the wife back in exchange for 2 mil is doing nothing for me... But I want to see what Koontz is like and this is the book I've heard mentioned the most.
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Post by grant87 on Jul 3, 2020 13:00:34 GMT
I'm currently reading The Office: The Untold Story and the new anthology Final Cuts: New Tales of Hollywood Horror and Other Spectacles.
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Post by edwardjohn on Jul 4, 2020 21:26:51 GMT
@kurben Have you read any of Mr Guillou's Espionage/Spy novels? Like the Carl Hamilton series?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2020 21:52:13 GMT
Yes i have read them all actually. Not as good, i think, as the Arn books. The first 2 perhaps 3 are good i think but the series are at least 10 books long. Then he wrote a sequel long afterwards to the series that i actually liked, Madame Terror it was called. In these books it is much more clear, since they are taking part in present time, that his political leanings is to the left. Especially in madame Terror. The first three are Coq Rouge, The Democratic Terrorist, In the Interest of the Nation. Guessing at what their english titles would be.
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Post by edwardjohn on Jul 4, 2020 22:33:29 GMT
Yes i have read them all actually. Not as good, i think, as the Arn books. The first 2 perhaps 3 are good i think but the series are at least 10 books long. Then he wrote a sequel long afterwards to the series that i actually liked, Madame Terror it was called. In these books it is much more clear, since they are taking part in present time, that his political leanings is to the left. Especially in madame Terror. The first three are Coq Rouge, The Democratic Terrorist, In the Interest of the Nation. Guessing at what their english titles would be. I'm currently just getting into "The Knight Templar", which, if you check on Amazon, the first book has way more reviews than the others, "The Road to Jerusalem" that is, which I find weird because, did they just stop before Arn got to the Holy Land?! Anyway, yep, those are the names of the Hamilton books I believe. From Wikipedia, it seems that they have made a ton of TV Shows and movies based on Hamilton. I think he is pretty much done with the Hamilton books though, he seems to be writing a new series based entirely on the previous century, called "The Great Century", have you checked these out? You definitely get an idea of his Political beliefs, I believe he writes for a Swedish paper/tabloid as well? Anyway, seems like an interesting guy, shame that most if the interviews with him are in Swedish.
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Post by edwardjohn on Jul 4, 2020 22:39:44 GMT
Just found out that Stellan Skarsgård played Hamilton, of course, Hollywood's favourite Swede. I love Peter Stormare personally.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2020 19:49:54 GMT
Just found out that Stellan Skarsgård played Hamilton, of course, Hollywood's favourite Swede. I love Peter Stormare personally. Well, his the great century series is a bit uneven. It starts with three young brothers and follow them and their descendants through the century. What i like is that we see many events and often from a different point of view. One of the brothers, during WW 2 is leaning towards the german side of things. It is extremely rare that a main person is leaning towards the BAD side and at the same time is a, in the bottom of it, a nice wellmeaning character. I have no doubt thats a very true image for the time in sweden. But thats just an example. Depending on where he centers his book different characters take center stage through they are related. The series gets weaker when it gets closer to the real time in about the 70,s and 80,s but up to and a bit after second world war it is good. But this is no action series really, this is a historical novel series. Yes, Guillou is certainly a character. As a young journalist he made a big scoop that told that there existed a secret burueu controlled by the security police that even the parlament didn't know about. It was completely unknown. it cooperated with CIA and Israel and registered opinions from persons leaning to the left in society. They had spies abroad and had organized breakins at foreign embassies. He was correct but both he and two others were accused by the security police for treason, they were spies according to them. Never very clear who they spied for since they published their findings in a wellknown newspaper. But they were condemned and Guillou spent a year in prison. Since then he has been accused several times of being a spy for Sovjet and Russia by the Security police (they hate him) but has never been able to prove nothing. And that first prison sentence ws actually a joke. Every paper in sweden has a publisher that takes responsibility for whats printed in his paper. But he wasn't accused just Guillou and his coauthor and photographer.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2020 20:05:47 GMT
Right now i'm reading Kalmarunionens tid (In the time of the Kalmar Union) by swedish professor Lars Erik Larsson. It is the late middle age of sweden and the nordic countries. It begins when the danish queen Margarita wins a big victory over the german prince Albrecht at Åsle in Sweden 1386. She decides to form an union that would incorporate Denmark, Norway (including Shetlands isles and the Orkneys and Iceland And Greenland), Sweden (including Finland and parts of balticum). She for that porpose adopt a slavish prince named Bogeslav and change his name to the more Nordic sounding Erik and makes him King of Sweden. Thats the beginning. As time passes by a certain national feeling start to rise in sweden. The Noblemen dont want to be ruled by a foreign king dominated by Denmark. Several uprisings take place in the next century, the 15,th century. It all ends when the last uprising is successful when Gustav Vasa is crowned King i n 1521. Its an interesting time and i look forward to getting deeper into it. It is about 135 years of nordic history that was very important in deciding how swedes, danes and our neighbours look at eachother for a long time.
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Post by edwardjohn on Jul 6, 2020 14:29:04 GMT
Right now i'm reading Kalmarunionens tid (In the time of the Kalmar Union) by swedish professor Lars Erik Larsson. It is the late middle age of sweden and the nordic countries. It begins when the danish queen Margarita wins a big victory over the german prince Albrecht at Åsle in Sweden 1386. She decides to form an union that would incorporate Denmark, Norway (including Shetlands isles and the Orkneys and Iceland And Greenland), Sweden (including Finland and parts of balticum). She for that porpose adopt a slavish prince named Bogeslav and change his name to the more Nordic sounding Erik and makes him King of Sweden. Thats the beginning. As time passes by a certain national feeling start to rise in sweden. The Noblemen dont want to be ruled by a foreign king dominated by Denmark. Several uprisings take place in the next century, the 15,th century. It all ends when the last uprising is successful when Gustav Vasa is crowned King i n 1521. Its an interesting time and i look forward to getting deeper into it. It is about 135 years of nordic history that was very important in deciding how swedes, danes and our neighbours look at eachother for a long time. It seems like all nations at some point experiment with the idea of a union of nations/crowns/parliaments. That experiment is still going on in the UK. But England had ambitions of a union of the same type at a similar period, Longshanks of course conquered Wales then wanted to do the same to the Scots, this was continued by his successors Edward II/III, but probably what stopped a union of that sort from occurring was England's war with France, they did not have the men or resources to launch a successful UK campaign while fighting the French. This is what led to Edward III essentially declaring that the Scots were more hassle than they were worth, in which he released King David, who had been a prisoner at The Tower of London, with the promise that he pay a yearly income and give a part of Southern Scotland to Edward, David refused. But with war with France going on, Edward said ok, but you still have to pay me yearly, as money was important to the war effort, I believe that David paid it then never did the following year or again. Language Question for you, is it true that there are no differences between Norwegian or Swedish? Or Swedish and another Scandinavian language? I believe that is the case but I may be mistaking, but that, despite it being the same language, they changed the name, just so they could make it obvious when the union did end? Sounds like an interesting book.
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Post by edwardjohn on Jul 6, 2020 14:34:53 GMT
I am currently getting into John Buchan's book, Oliver Cromwell. A great account of the English Civil War and the following rule of the Commonwealth of England, and I also appreciated the military accounts of Cromwell and his army. A very balanced account of Cromwell, commending him where it was justified and criticising him where justified. But it is obvious that the historian is Pro-Cromwell at moments. I believe that Theodore Roosevelt also write a book on Cromwell as well.
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Post by neesy on Jul 6, 2020 14:47:16 GMT
I'm currently reading The Office: The Untold Story and the new anthology Final Cuts: New Tales of Hollywood Horror and Other Spectacles. Hi Grant! What do you think of that first book? Is it any good?
Great to see you posting here!
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Post by Wicked Esther on Jul 6, 2020 15:14:27 GMT
I'm almost done reading The Husband by Dean Koontz. I guess the nice way to put it would be to say that I'm underwhelmed.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2020 16:56:34 GMT
I am currently getting into John Buchan's book, Oliver Cromwell. A great account of the English Civil War and the following rule of the Commonwealth of England, and I also appreciated the military accounts of Cromwell and his army. A very balanced account of Cromwell, commending him where it was justified and criticising him where justified. But it is obvious that the historian is Pro-Cromwell at moments. I believe that Theodore Roosevelt also write a book on Cromwell as well. Regarding your question re languages. That is definitely not true. Once upon a time scandinavian could be said to be one language including what is now, Swedish, danish, norwegian and icelandic. According to linguists the language that now is closest to the scandinavian of yore is Icelandic. But the others developed in different ways and are now distinct. It is true that most people can with some tries find a mix that can be understand by all, that was how we communicated with our danish neighbours at my old countryplace. But often swedes have difficulties understanding danes when they are speaking pure danish. And the norwegians, after our union broke down in 1905, has distanced themselfes languagewise very much from swedish. So by now they are clearly different languages. Closely related yes and words in common and all that but distinct.
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Post by neesy on Jul 6, 2020 17:04:18 GMT
I am currently getting into John Buchan's book, Oliver Cromwell. A great account of the English Civil War and the following rule of the Commonwealth of England, and I also appreciated the military accounts of Cromwell and his army. A very balanced account of Cromwell, commending him where it was justified and criticising him where justified. But it is obvious that the historian is Pro-Cromwell at moments. I believe that Theodore Roosevelt also write a book on Cromwell as well. Regarding your question re languages. That is definitely not true. Once upon a time scandinavian could be said to be one language including what is now, Swedish, danish, norwegian and icelandic. According to linguists the language that now is closest to the scandinavian of yore is Icelandic. But the others developed in different ways and are now distinct. It is true that most people can with some tries find a mix that can be understand by all, that was how we communicated with our danish neighbours at my old countryplace. But often swedes have difficulties understanding danes when they are speaking pure danish. And the norwegians, after our union broke down in 1905, has distanced themselfes languagewise very much from swedish. So by now they are clearly different languages. Closely related yes and words in common and all that but distinct.So what did the English language come from?
My Mom's family is from Scotland but my Dad's ancestors were French (French Canadian from Quebec)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2020 17:05:34 GMT
I have, for the moment, abandoned history and am enjoying a spy novel. Double image by Helen MacInnes, a scottish-american author that wrote quite good spy stories from the beginning of the 40,s to the beginning of the 70,s. Her husband worked for the MI6. Her first books are taking place during the war and then during the cold war. Unlike Lecarre, that i think is overrated, her main character is seldom a spy of some kind but an ordinary person thats get dragged into an intrigue of spies by accident. He is often surrounded by spies of all colors but he is an example of the ordinary man.
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Post by neesy on Jul 6, 2020 17:10:00 GMT
I have, for the moment, abandoned history and am enjoying a spy novel. Double image by Helen MacInnes, a scottish-american author that wrote quite good spy stories from the beginning of the 40,s to the beginning of the 70,s. Her husband worked for the MI6. Her first books are taking place during the war and then during the cold war. Unlike Lecarre, that i think is overrated, her main character is seldom a spy of some kind but an ordinary person thats get dragged into an intrigue of spies by accident. He is often surrounded by spies of all colors but he is an example of the ordinary man. That sounds really good - I will have to go look her up and see if the local library carries any of her books
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2020 17:26:43 GMT
Regarding your question re languages. That is definitely not true. Once upon a time scandinavian could be said to be one language including what is now, Swedish, danish, norwegian and icelandic. According to linguists the language that now is closest to the scandinavian of yore is Icelandic. But the others developed in different ways and are now distinct. It is true that most people can with some tries find a mix that can be understand by all, that was how we communicated with our danish neighbours at my old countryplace. But often swedes have difficulties understanding danes when they are speaking pure danish. And the norwegians, after our union broke down in 1905, has distanced themselfes languagewise very much from swedish. So by now they are clearly different languages. Closely related yes and words in common and all that but distinct. So what did the English language come from?
My Mom's family is from Scotland but my Dad's ancestors were French (French Canadian from Quebec)
Thats a much older story. English is, in its origin a westgermanic language. It originated with the influx of Anglo-Saxons in the 5,th century to the british isles, Above all german, danish, and frisian people. Their language in due time came to be called Old English. That replaced, slowly, the celtic languages that had been spoken there earlier. Then the Vikings came and made raids and became kings over parts of england and their influence with the language made it change and become what we today call Middle English. This was in the 9,th and 10,th century. Then in 1066 came the Norman invasion and the Norman of the invaders became a big influence on English. Since Normans were essentially Vikings that had learned to speak old french a lot of loanwords from both French and Old Norse entered the language and kept on doing so for many centuries since the ruling class spoke Norman. The next change was Middle english became Early Modern English around 1500, the language of william shakespeare. With the influence of the renaissance spreading over europe a lot of loanwords from Greek and latin entered the language. It also included rather big pronunciation changes. Ok, that was the shortest i could make it but as a subject you could write a book about it and many have.
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Post by edwardjohn on Jul 6, 2020 17:31:22 GMT
I have, for the moment, abandoned history and am enjoying a spy novel. Double image by Helen MacInnes, a scottish-american author that wrote quite good spy stories from the beginning of the 40,s to the beginning of the 70,s. Her husband worked for the MI6. Her first books are taking place during the war and then during the cold war. Unlike Lecarre, that i think is overrated, her main character is seldom a spy of some kind but an ordinary person thats get dragged into an intrigue of spies by accident. He is often surrounded by spies of all colors but he is an example of the ordinary man. She went to the same University I go to!
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