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Post by edwardjohn on Jan 3, 2020 19:07:46 GMT
I have a question for everyone! (Drum roll) Has anyone ever been on an online forum, doesn't need to be the SK or here, and been told that they are being disrespectful and offensive for giving an opinion. I only ask because I'm on a guitar forum, and we sometimes discuss certain bands, and we were discussing Maiden, Iron Maiden, and I said that Bruce Dickinson, the singer, is an idiot. I said this because of some of the comments he has made in the past, I don't mean it personally, I don't know Bruce personally and he seems like a nice enough guy, I only called him an idiot because of some of his comments he has made about certain issues. I also noted my dislike for the band in general. I then get a warning from the moderators on this forum, telling me I'm being insulting and offensive!?! All I did was state an opinion, and because it happened to disagree with what others believed it was deemed as offensive! Huh, never knew that having an opinion was offensive. Does any of the moderators have a response to this? Was I wrong, where they right? What do you think?
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Post by neesy on Jan 3, 2020 20:03:34 GMT
I have a question for everyone! (Drum roll) Has anyone ever been on an online forum, doesn't need to be the SK or here, and been told that they are being disrespectful and offensive for giving an opinion. I only ask because I'm on a guitar forum, and we sometimes discuss certain bands, and we were discussing Maiden, Iron Maiden, and I said that Bruce Dickinson, the singer, is an idiot. I said this because of some of the comments he has made in the past, I don't mean it personally, I don't know Bruce personally and he seems like a nice enough guy, I only called him an idiot because of some of his comments he has made about certain issues. I also noted my dislike for the band in general. I then get a warning from the moderators on this forum, telling me I'm being insulting and offensive!?! All I did was state an opinion, and because it happened to disagree with what others believed it was deemed as offensive! Huh, never knew that having an opinion was offensive. Does any of the moderators have a response to this? Was I wrong, where they right? What do you think? This actually happened to me when I first joined SKMB - apparently some of the pics I posted were bordering on lewd or too racy. Especially Dana Jean did not like it. Eventually I realized she was right so I was much more careful after that so as not to offend anyone.
She always gave me a warning and never attempted to delete me as a member.
So in your case perhaps the word "idiot" was going over the line. I would not sweat it and just let it die down.
p.s. I am a bit late but Happy Hogmany (see The End of the Year Review) njrree
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Post by edwardjohn on Jan 3, 2020 20:10:33 GMT
I remember Dana not letting me post a Black Sabbath song, I think it was for Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, and because it had a girl being possessed by a demon on the cover it was inappropriate! Well, Sabbath aint for everyone, hahaha. But seriously though, you would expect a mature person to be on a SK related forum, if they can't handle stuff like that then they shouldn't be able to handle SK books, know what I mean?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2020 20:58:38 GMT
Gotta be careful on open forums, being offended is subjective, even the most innocuous statement will raise someone's hackles.
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Post by neesy on Jan 4, 2020 0:50:47 GMT
I remember Dana not letting me post a Black Sabbath song, I think it was for Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, and because it had a girl being possessed by a demon on the cover it was inappropriate! Well, Sabbath aint for everyone, hahaha. But seriously though, you would expect a mature person to be on a SK related forum, if they can't handle stuff like that then they shouldn't be able to handle SK books, know what I mean? That was my reasoning at first as well but I was told it is a family forum so we cannot post just anything. It's okay for SK to swear, etc. (which doesn't bother me)
By the way - have you read The Institute yet? I got it for Christmas but haven't opened the book yet
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Post by edwardjohn on Jan 4, 2020 1:15:48 GMT
I remember Dana not letting me post a Black Sabbath song, I think it was for Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, and because it had a girl being possessed by a demon on the cover it was inappropriate! Well, Sabbath aint for everyone, hahaha. But seriously though, you would expect a mature person to be on a SK related forum, if they can't handle stuff like that then they shouldn't be able to handle SK books, know what I mean? That was my reasoning at first as well but I was told it is a family forum so we cannot post just anything. It's okay for SK to swear, etc. (which doesn't bother me)
By the way - have you read The Institute yet? I got it for Christmas but haven't opened the book yet
I didn't finish it, I never thought much of it. I never thought much of The Outsider either. I hope you enjoy it though. To me, it felt like a rehash of stuff that Steve has already done, and done it better. I hope Steve can do different things though, maybe try another of his series books. Steve has been talking about another Talisman book for years, and nothing has materialised.
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Post by spideyman on Jan 4, 2020 3:50:19 GMT
I have a question for everyone! (Drum roll) Has anyone ever been on an online forum, doesn't need to be the SK or here, and been told that they are being disrespectful and offensive for giving an opinion. I only ask because I'm on a guitar forum, and we sometimes discuss certain bands, and we were discussing Maiden, Iron Maiden, and I said that Bruce Dickinson, the singer, is an idiot. I said this because of some of the comments he has made in the past, I don't mean it personally, I don't know Bruce personally and he seems like a nice enough guy, I only called him an idiot because of some of his comments he has made about certain issues. I also noted my dislike for the band in general. I then get a warning from the moderators on this forum, telling me I'm being insulting and offensive!?! All I did was state an opinion, and because it happened to disagree with what others believed it was deemed as offensive! Huh, never knew that having an opinion was offensive. Does any of the moderators have a response to this? Was I wrong, where they right? What do you think? It appears to be an issue with "labeling", thus that forum and many others consider the use of the word idiot as being insulting or offensive. Forums have to be careful about legalities. Perhaps you could find a way to express your thought about a particular person of group without a labeling word. The go all phrase is: in my opinion I dislike so and so because ............ Thereby expressing an opinion without a label. It is all about being politically correct on a forum.
When it comes to subject matter, especially on the SKMB one has to remember there are some "young" people on that MB. IT is all meant to kept in a GP state. Family material only. Yes, the majority of members are adult, but since it is an open forum, again, they must be careful what material is posted.
Since The Playground follows the basic rules of the SKMB, moderators would most likely suggest using judgement in posting any videos.
We all have to right to agree to disagree, we just have to watch the way we express an opinion. Leave the labeling words out and all should be fine.
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Post by osnafrank on Jan 4, 2020 10:32:36 GMT
I remember Dana not letting me post a Black Sabbath song, I think it was for Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, and because it had a girl being possessed by a demon on the cover it was inappropriate! Well, Sabbath aint for everyone, hahaha. But seriously though, you would expect a mature person to be on a SK related forum, if they can't handle stuff like that then they shouldn't be able to handle SK books, know what I mean? Yap, we can handle it. But, this is still a public forum. @notaro, spideyman and neesy nailed it.
Just leave the labeling words out. Case closed.
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Post by edwardjohn on Jan 4, 2020 11:58:08 GMT
I have a question for everyone! (Drum roll) Has anyone ever been on an online forum, doesn't need to be the SK or here, and been told that they are being disrespectful and offensive for giving an opinion. I only ask because I'm on a guitar forum, and we sometimes discuss certain bands, and we were discussing Maiden, Iron Maiden, and I said that Bruce Dickinson, the singer, is an idiot. I said this because of some of the comments he has made in the past, I don't mean it personally, I don't know Bruce personally and he seems like a nice enough guy, I only called him an idiot because of some of his comments he has made about certain issues. I also noted my dislike for the band in general. I then get a warning from the moderators on this forum, telling me I'm being insulting and offensive!?! All I did was state an opinion, and because it happened to disagree with what others believed it was deemed as offensive! Huh, never knew that having an opinion was offensive. Does any of the moderators have a response to this? Was I wrong, where they right? What do you think? It appears to be an issue with "labeling", thus that forum and many others consider the use of the word idiot as being insulting or offensive. Forums have to be careful about legalities. Perhaps you could find a way to express your thought about a particular person of group without a labeling word. The go all phrase is: in my opinion I dislike so and so because ............ Thereby expressing an opinion without a label. It is all about being politically correct on a forum.
When it comes to subject matter, especially on the SKMB one has to remember there are some "young" people on that MB. IT is all meant to kept in a GP state. Family material only. Yes, the majority of members are adult, but since it is an open forum, again, they must be careful what material is posted.
Since The Playground follows the basic rules of the SKMB, moderators would most likely suggest using judgement in posting any videos.
We all have to right to agree to disagree, we just have to watch the way we express an opinion. Leave the labeling words out and all should be fine. Thanks for the response, I never really considered the legal problems which might occur for those running the forums. Thanks Spidey!
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Post by edwardjohn on Jan 4, 2020 11:59:52 GMT
I remember Dana not letting me post a Black Sabbath song, I think it was for Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, and because it had a girl being possessed by a demon on the cover it was inappropriate! Well, Sabbath aint for everyone, hahaha. But seriously though, you would expect a mature person to be on a SK related forum, if they can't handle stuff like that then they shouldn't be able to handle SK books, know what I mean? Yap, we can handle it. But, this is still a public forum. @notaro , spideyman and neesy nailed it.
Just leave the labeling words out. Case closed.
Thanks Frank, I'll find more elaborate ways of expressing my dislike for Maiden! Just joking. But anyway, it makes sense that a public forum would have to be politically correct. Thanks.
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Post by wolf on Jan 4, 2020 16:38:39 GMT
Yap, we can handle it. But, this is still a public forum. @notaro , spideyman and neesy nailed it.
Just leave the labeling words out. Case closed.
Thanks Frank, I'll find more elaborate ways of expressing my dislike for Maiden! Just joking. But anyway, it makes sense that a public forum would have to be politically correct. Thanks. --------------------hey kiddo, how are you doing today? setting the PC aspect aside, think about this: 1. theres nothing wrong with keeping things pretty much PG. 2.nothing wrong with common courtesy & politeness. 3. nothing wrong with consideration, and being considerate of how your friends & family feel and think.
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Post by edwardjohn on Jan 4, 2020 17:38:38 GMT
I love everybody until they give me a reason not to!
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Post by wolf on Jan 4, 2020 17:45:28 GMT
I love everybody until they give me a reason not to! ----------------lol, me too.
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Post by neesy on Jan 10, 2020 14:36:11 GMT
I love everybody until they give me a reason not to! ----------------lol, me too.
smilie_girl_freude
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Post by doccreed on Jan 11, 2020 15:53:32 GMT
Hey, Frank. I've been watching videos of places like Belarus and Slovakia. Very beautiful. Have you ever visited? I've forgotten if you've posted all the countries you've visited. ha. osnafrank
Hope everybody is having a nice weekend. It is going to reach 73F/23C this week. I have a lot of posts to catch up on. smilie_wet_162
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Post by osnafrank on Jan 11, 2020 16:32:44 GMT
Hey, Frank. I've been watching videos of places like Belarus and Slovakia. Very beautiful. Have you ever visited? I've forgotten if you've posted all the countries you've visited. ha. osnafrank
Hope everybody is having a nice weekend. It is going to reach 73F/23C this week. I have a lot of posts to catch up on. smilie_wet_162
Neither had i been in Belarus or Slovakia. I visited Croatia, a wonderful country. Slovakia has an awesome scenery though.
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Post by edwardjohn on Jan 11, 2020 19:23:02 GMT
Doc:
Thanks for creating this thread - this is one of my "go to" threads on the SKMB as sometimes we just feel like saying something that's on our minds without really considering which category it might fit in to.
Example - I have so many random thoughts going on right now in my head:
- Andy - he'll be returning up North tomorrow so today we should do something special together - I'm thinking we should check out a place called the Amsterdam Tea Room as it is run by a Scottish guy plus they apparently have awesome tea and nibblies there.
Josh - he seems to be doing well at work and just got a $2 raise - yay Josh!
Me - still hanging in there - looking forward to getting those King Kon shirts in the mail in the next couple of weeks. - Hope they fit!
Incidentally I just found something I was looking for - it's a glass jam dish from Scotland. My Mom brought it to Canada in 1945 or 1946 after the war. At that time it was over 80 years old and had belonged to my Granny on Mom's side.
I had put it away somewhere safe and then for the longest time could not find it or remember exactly where that was. Just found it a couple of days ago (heavy sigh of relief).
When things like that happen you start to wonder if you're losing it. Glad to see I am apparently not losing it (not yet, anyway!).
Oh look! I may already be a wiener!
That jam dish seems cool.
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Post by Sundrop on Jan 12, 2020 0:18:59 GMT
I remember Dana not letting me post a Black Sabbath song, I think it was for Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, and because it had a girl being possessed by a demon on the cover it was inappropriate! Well, Sabbath aint for everyone, hahaha. But seriously though, you would expect a mature person to be on a SK related forum, if they can't handle stuff like that then they shouldn't be able to handle SK books, know what I mean? You have to remember that sometimes there are 13 year old children on the SK forum doing research and stuff for school. The Mods there have always been very fair about adhering to the rules. It doesn't matter how mature someone might be, the site is still reflective on Mr. King as owner of the site, and care and respect for the feelings of everyone should be considered.
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Post by edwardjohn on Jan 12, 2020 14:22:45 GMT
I remember Dana not letting me post a Black Sabbath song, I think it was for Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, and because it had a girl being possessed by a demon on the cover it was inappropriate! Well, Sabbath aint for everyone, hahaha. But seriously though, you would expect a mature person to be on a SK related forum, if they can't handle stuff like that then they shouldn't be able to handle SK books, know what I mean? You have to remember that sometimes there are 13 year old children on the SK forum doing research and stuff for school. The Mods there have always been very fair about adhering to the rules. It doesn't matter how mature someone might be, the site is still reflective on Mr. King as owner of the site, and care and respect for the feelings of everyone should be considered.
It would do kids some good if they listened to Sabbath! Joking aside though I understand what you mean. But if that's the case then the teachers or parents are at fault, kids that young should not be checking out Stephen King books, I cant think of a single novel that would be suitable for a child of that age, but then again Steve doesn't really write for that audience. Regardless of what people say, books are like anything else, you should or shouldn't be allowed with it as a child. Imagine if a kid was to pick up IT?
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Post by edwardjohn on Jan 12, 2020 14:25:22 GMT
Hey, Frank. I've been watching videos of places like Belarus and Slovakia. Very beautiful. Have you ever visited? I've forgotten if you've posted all the countries you've visited. ha. osnafrank
Hope everybody is having a nice weekend. It is going to reach 73F/23C this week. I have a lot of posts to catch up on.
I visited Turkey as a child, that was a great country, this was a while ago right enough, Turkey has had its problems recently but I'm sure its still a great place to visit.
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