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Post by Dizzy on Aug 3, 2021 17:34:26 GMT
Those Were not Pigs though thy were Boars there isa Different because Pigs an Boars will Eat anyting if they Get Hungry Enough they are Omivores.
My Husband Told me People That do Bad stuff Like the Guy in the Movie sometimes Feed Folks to the the Pigs or Boars because they don't Leave any Scraps or evidence really. that's the only Part I remember of the Movie so Far but now I wanna Watch them all of the Haniibal Movies.
I Know of One of My Friends Dad who Got Chased by a Angry Pig Once when he was Younger an it would have Killed Him except he got on Top of a Car. Those One Animal I would not Mess with me unless it was already full.
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Post by wolf on Aug 3, 2021 23:30:22 GMT
Hi Guys What Hannibal Movie it is Where a Disfigured Bad Guy was Trying to Feed Hannibal to Killer Boars but He End Up Getting Push in there Him Self. I Seen That One.They Just Ignore Hannibal I Think because He was Smart Enough to Stay Totally Still. Actually, pigs don't want a struggle from their "meal", they usually live on sludge, corn, their own fecal matter, etc, and so on, they're not a predator species, and actually quite lazy. But Hannibal just lucked out, while his nemesis did not, but Hannibal would go on to lose a hand, which he couldn't have been happy about since his hands were his instruments of "fun", and he was down one instrument. I'd be curious to see the film with Foster as Clarice, would be interesting to see how well she would have played the tougher Clairce, I mean Clarice was a total bad a§§ in Hannibal, while just a sleuth in Silence. Foster can be tough, she was raped in the Accused but still came off tough, so I think she could have handled it but whatever, it worked out for the best, got me into Moore who went on to become one of my faves, like her best in Magnolia, her character is just great. I mean she got with the guy because he had money and cheated on him a lot, but then developed actual feelings for him so she was going through hell while he was dying, and she played that character perfectly. The whole cast of that film were on the top of their game her and Cruise were the two best... Such a great film.. I think I may watch it tomorrow, its a little long though so I don't watch it often. Anything over the 2 hour mark is long, but there's some gems that are just worth it. Those Were not Pigs though thy were Boars there isa Different because Pigs an Boars will Eat anyting if they Get Hungry Enough they are Omivores.
My Husband Told me People That do Bad stuff Like the Guy in the Movie sometimes Feed Folks to the the Pigs or Boars because they don't Leave any Scraps or evidence really. that's the only Part I remember of the Movie so Far but now I wanna Watch them all of the Haniibal Movies.
I Know of One of My Friends Dad who Got Chased by a Angry Pig Once when he was Younger an it would have Killed Him except he got on Top of a Car. Those One Animal I would not Mess with me unless it was already full. You're BOTH right! 😊
All porcines are omnivorous, and highly intelligent with very keen senses (except for eyesight, I think), especially sense of smell. (think about the 'truffle pigs')
Most domestic pigs are usually relatively tame. Though they can be bad tempered and dangerous. When my grandparents came home from WWII, my grandfather went back to farming. They had one pig that was raised with the family dogs, he was sweet, clean and gentle. He thought he was dog, lol.
At the same time my grandfather had a brood sow, that was an evil vicious b!&@#. My grandmother had a beautiful Buff Orpington hen with chicks that crossed her yard, and she tore the poor hen apart and trampled her brood.😔💔
The thing is, that type of European wild boar (in "Hannibal") are extremely dangerous....
(even the wild boars here in the U.S. , and feral pigs of Hawaii are too, but not like the European boars...I think. @kurben !?...correct me where I might be mistaken. Please.🙂 )
...and those that are in 'Hannibal' were trained very specifically. (Pavlov's Dog, comes to mind right now) Yes, I think Hannibal remaining so still was a factor in them leaving him alone.
(don't forget how Hannibal, being an apex predator among men, and being so cool calm and ruthless, had complete control over himself. Like when his blood pressure...etc...never changed, never rose, when he chewed off the nurse's face in "The Silence of the Lambs". ...and don't forget how in "Hannibal", he faced down the German Shepherd, who was obviously Agent Paul's trained guard dog, no simple or easy feat right there.)
Hannibal had no fear, so I'm pretty sure the boars went straight to the smell of the 'Boar Wranglers' blood, and the sound of their voices. Ignoring the silent, and relatively 'still manikin on the post' that wasn't obviously their dinner. 🙂
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Post by Deviancy on Aug 4, 2021 2:49:35 GMT
...and don't forget how in "Hannibal", he faced down the German Shepherd, who was obviously Agent Paul's trained guard dog, no simple or easy feat right there.) Hannibal's pulse never spiked, he stayed perfectly calm at all times, part of what made him dangerous, the other part, he was able to sense fear in others, he sensed it in Graham in Red Dragon and pointed it out and then did a test to prove he was right. Hannibal was able to just walk among the boars, they saw him but didn't sense that spike in his pulse so didn't see him as a threat or as dinner, Oldman's character was also pretty still since he was paralyzed but he freaked out and they sensed that fear/pulse spike, and went to town. But to be fair, even if he managed to control his fear and keep his pulse rate down, they'd have sooner or later started to eat him anyways since it was just food laying there, he just sped up his own torture by freaking out. Can't blame him, he was screwed and he knew it. Dollarhyde knew that about Hannibal, played into his respect for Hannibal. As much as I like Silence Of The Lambs, and I still like it more than Red Dragon, I like Dollarhyde more than Bill, he was smarter, more entertaining to watch develop into a more dangerous serial killer, and Fiennes is just an outstanding actor. Bill was played by the guy who went on to be in Monk, he never really became a top tier actor, and he was a little messy, he tortured the women for reasons they never really explained, and thought a skin suit would work, which is pretty stupid. My theory, he tortured them because he was angry at women for being what he could not be, and he wanted them for their skin. but he still wasn't developed as well in as Dollarhyde, well movie wise, in the book he's got more depth.
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Post by Dizzy on Aug 4, 2021 18:37:53 GMT
Who is Dollarhyde an Also Bill Deviancy ? They are in Other Hannibal Movies? I Just Found Out The Bad Guy Who was Trying to Use Boars is Gary Oldman He Look Very Different in The Movie also His Name was Mason Verger or Someting Like that Hannibal Keeps Getting The Better of Him lol He Should Have Just Left Him Alone.
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Post by Dizzy on Aug 4, 2021 18:43:06 GMT
Also wolf Thanks for The Interesting info About Pigs an Such Sis. You Know alot! c029
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Post by wolf on Aug 4, 2021 22:40:09 GMT
...and don't forget how in "Hannibal", he faced down the German Shepherd, who was obviously Agent Paul's trained guard dog, no simple or easy feat right there.) Hannibal's pulse never spiked, he stayed perfectly calm at all times, part of what made him dangerous, the other part, he was able to sense fear in others, he sensed it in Graham in Red Dragon and pointed it out and then did a test to prove he was right. Hannibal was able to just walk among the boars, they saw him but didn't sense that spike in his pulse so didn't see him as a threat or as dinner, Oldman's character was also pretty still since he was paralyzed but he freaked out and they sensed that fear/pulse spike, and went to town. But to be fair, even if he managed to control his fear and keep his pulse rate down, they'd have sooner or later started to eat him anyways since it was just food laying there, he just sped up his own torture by freaking out. Can't blame him, he was screwed and he knew it. Dollarhyde knew that about Hannibal, played into his respect for Hannibal. As much as I like Silence Of The Lambs, and I still like it more than Red Dragon, I like Dollarhyde more than Bill, he was smarter, more entertaining to watch develop into a more dangerous serial killer, and Fiennes is just an outstanding actor. Bill was played by the guy who went on to be in Monk, he never really became a top tier actor, and he was a little messy, he tortured the women for reasons they never really explained, and thought a skin suit would work, which is pretty stupid. My theory, he tortured them because he was angry at women for being what he could not be, and he wanted them for their skin. but he still wasn't developed as well in as Dollarhyde, well movie wise, in the book he's got more depth. Who is Dollarhyde an Also Bill Deviancy ? They are in Other Hannibal Movies? I Just Found Out The Bad Guy Who was Trying to Use Boars is Gary Oldman He Look Very Different in The Movie also His Name was Mason Verger or Someting Like that Hannibal Keeps Getting The Better of Him lol He Should Have Just Left Him Alone. Lil Sis...Dollarhyde is the villain/serial killer in the movie "Red Dragon". Another film based on Thomas Harris' novels, he is the author who wrote the "Silence of the Lambs"...etc...
"Bill"...refers to "Buffalo Bill/Jame Gumb" ...the serial killer/villain in "The Silence of the Lambs".
Ted Levine played Buffalo Bill. (Damn, that man is fine.) Ted Levine has been around quite awhile, a VERY good character actor, very talented, and one that I much admire.
Here in this pic below, he is with 'Catherine', the captive girl Clarice saved.
(can't remember her name, unfortunately, but she was really good in "Lambs", and later years in the series "Weeds". Check that one out, if you haven't seen it. You might like it Sis.😊)....
Levine's latest works have included FX's "The Bridge", (which I would have loved to see more epicsodes of) and the TNT tv series "The Alienist", another good one.
Mason Verger played by Gary Oldman was exquisite, and yeah man, they really nailed the prosthetics and make up in that one!
Lol, hey Deviancy ...I got a kick out of Joe Anderson's performance as Verger in the series 'Hannibal'! 😄 I think he did a fair follow up to Oldman's set 'type' he gave of us, he was pretty good!...
But, I think, Andersons' interpretation of the character, was like a cross between 'Oldman's Mason' and 'The Grinch'.😆 😄
(...kinda reminded me of the way Depp described his inspiration for "Jack Sparrow" was a cross between 'Keith Richards' and 'Pepe LePew'. 😆😄...read that in an interview with him in the Dallas Morning News one morning over coffee. )
Dev! You are absolutely right! Feinnes is amazing (and the ultimate D.) in "Red Dragon". But I must not neglect to mention, that the actor who played Dollarhyde in the series was quite formidable too. I think he did a very fine job.
The girl in the series who played 'Reba' was excellent, Emily Watson is a great actress, and did do a wonderful work in 'Red Dragon', but I preferred the girl and the guy (who was Dollarhyde) in the 'Hannibal' series together.
I know Feinnes really needed to get across how "introverted" and shy/embarrassed Dollarhyde was, but he and Watson just didn't mesh so well for me. At times it felt too much like they both were trying to hard...but that's all just me, I know.
(....you know,,,I'm not sure...but I THINK I might remember Catherine being in "The Alienist" too. Mmm...I might be wrong about that. Been awhile since I checked in on that series. I could be thinking of another movie or series set around that era. *shrugs*...I'll get back to watching it again, eventually....so many damn good stories,,,so little time. 🙄😉)
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Post by wolf on Aug 4, 2021 22:43:05 GMT
Thanks, Diz. And you're welcome.
Nah...not me, lil Sis. I just got some pretty good general information going on at times.🙂
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Post by Deviancy on Aug 5, 2021 2:46:21 GMT
Ted Levine played Buffalo Bill. Levine is a good actor but they pigeonholed him pretty much, he's played a cop in more shows and films than I can count at the moment, but his best cop role was his role in American Gangster, and his most well known cop role would be playing Paul Walker's boss, a cop, in Fast And The Furious. Silence was his big break... and he deseved an award for that, the film won big time but he didn't get jack. Buffalo Bill was his nickname because he skinned them, Jame Gumb, Jame, interesting name, was his actual name. His iconic line is err... put the lotion on the skin or get the hose again, or something like that. Great character, just not as good as Dollarhyde, but just as sadistic. Fiennes got the biggest break though from Harry Potter, he'll go down in history as one of the best bad guys due to playing Voldemort, he'll be up there with Darth Vader, if he's not already.
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Post by Deviancy on Aug 5, 2021 17:32:37 GMT
That quote of Bill's in Silence, I've lost track how many times I've seen people wearing this shirt. Dollarhyde may have been the killer with more story, Jame Gumb is far more iconic. As for Hopkins, another film I like him in a lot but many said he was iffy in it, was the Wolf Man. I thought he did just fine in that film, many disagree with me however. And many think the final fight between he and his son in the film was "too WWE", I thought it was handled just fine. One mistake, they cut out a lot of scenes after he turns and escapes the asylum that are really well done, they have them under the bonus section on the BD but they should have put them back in the film and released a proper extended version. Oh well... c'est la vie.
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Post by Dizzy on Aug 5, 2021 23:18:55 GMT
I Going to Have to Get My Husband to Buy The Other 2 Hannibal Movies Now. I Really Wanna See Them. What Are They Called Again Please?
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Post by Deviancy on Aug 6, 2021 3:00:07 GMT
I Going to Have to Get My Husband to Buy The Other 2 Hannibal Movies Now. I Really Wanna See Them. What Are They Called Again Please? Story wise you need three films, the final one is hard to come by offline but Ebay has quite a few for sale, some would say Manhunter is part of the story but it was just loosely based on Red Dragon and not considered part of the franchise. Silence Of The Lambs, based on the second novel and featured Foster as Clarice and Hopkins as Hannibal was beyond a hit, and it owned the Oscars that year. Foster won the main award for best actress for her role in the film, Hopkins won for best actor, Demme won for best director, and the film won the award for best film. In short, it won all the major awards that year, and it instantly became one of the top 50 movies of all time due to how it owned the Oscars. Hannibal came next but it didn't do nearly as well for various reasons, its a good film but Hopkins was the only big name from Silence who came back for Hannibal, Demme who directed Silence, he bailed and they replaced him with Ridley Scott, but Jody Foster refused to come back because she didn't like the story or the ending, and while they said they'd change the ending for her, she still refused, so they got Julianne Moore to play Clarice, Crawford isn't in Hannibal, and instead of focusing on a serial killer and getting Hannibal's help like in Red Dragon and Silence Of the Lambs, Clarice was all about catching Hannibal which she failed at doing, and the bad guy who did die was really quite irrelevant, he got her in trouble but in the end Hannibal outsmarted him throughout the entire film. So while I enjoy the film, it doesn't come close to being as great as Silence Of the Lambs. Red Dragon came next, its based on the first novel and features Ed Norton as Graham, and he did an outstanding job, and Crawford was in Red Dragon like Silence but they got Harvey Keitel to play Crawford instead, and he did fine, and then they got Fiennes to be Dollarhyde/the Red Dragon, and he did an outstanding job. Wolf mentioned how the chemistry between Fiennes and Watson wasn't as good as the tv show, but that just tells me the tv show failed because in the novel the chemistry isn't there, he's a serial killer/rapist, he has no idea how to relate to human beings, so he has no solid chemistry with anyone in the story. Wouldn't make sense if he did since he's not human anymore. Hannibal Rising is a prequel and the last part of the story, the author wrote the book last because the studio paid him a lot, total rush job, and its about a young Hannibal so no Hopkins, so the film failed at the box office and the book ended up on clearance. Its not a bad film it just doesn't come close to the other three, but it does destroy Hannibal's mystique because it finally reveals why he was warped.
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Post by wolf on Aug 6, 2021 3:53:37 GMT
Ted Levine played Buffalo Bill. Levine is a good actor but they pigeonholed him pretty much, he's played a cop in more shows and films than I can count at the moment, but his best cop role was his role in American Gangster, and his most well known cop role would be playing Paul Walker's boss, a cop, in Fast And The Furious. Silence was his big break... and he deseved an award for that, the film won big time but he didn't get jack. Buffalo Bill was his nickname because he skinned them, Jame Gumb, Jame, interesting name, was his actual name. His iconic line is err... put the lotion on the skin or get the hose again, or something like that. Great character, just not as good as Dollarhyde, but just as sadistic. Fiennes got the biggest break though from Harry Potter, he'll go down in history as one of the best bad guys due to playing Voldemort, he'll be up there with Darth Vader, if he's not already. ....just one note of thought on this, I do believe Fiennes was held in high regard, and greatly lauded, long before he deigned to grace the Potter flicks. 🙂
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Post by Deviancy on Aug 8, 2021 2:44:19 GMT
I do believe Fiennes was held in high regard, and greatly lauded, long before he deigned to grace the Potter flicks. He's been respected since his early days but Voldemort became a global iconic character, the modern day Darth Vader, and that gave him a huge global following that captured tons of kids and teens and even the older set. But what a cast, and I'm referring to the older characters, they got Fiennes, Oldman, Rickman, Coltrane, Carter, Isaacs, and the list just goes on and on. I didn't recognize any of the kid actors from anything prior, I'm sure they did other things, but nothing I've seen as of yet. Personally, I'll take Dollarhyde over Voldemort but I can't deny that more know him as Voldemort. But yeah... outstanding actor... Speaking of movies, think I'll watch one before I head off to sleep.
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Post by edwardjohn on Aug 9, 2021 20:46:48 GMT
Levine is a good actor but they pigeonholed him pretty much, he's played a cop in more shows and films than I can count at the moment, but his best cop role was his role in American Gangster, and his most well known cop role would be playing Paul Walker's boss, a cop, in Fast And The Furious. Silence was his big break... and he deseved an award for that, the film won big time but he didn't get jack. Buffalo Bill was his nickname because he skinned them, Jame Gumb, Jame, interesting name, was his actual name. His iconic line is err... put the lotion on the skin or get the hose again, or something like that. Great character, just not as good as Dollarhyde, but just as sadistic. Fiennes got the biggest break though from Harry Potter, he'll go down in history as one of the best bad guys due to playing Voldemort, he'll be up there with Darth Vader, if he's not already. ....just one note of thought on this, I do believe Fiennes was held in high regard, and greatly lauded, long before he deigned to grace the Potter flicks. 🙂 Ralph is an excellent actor.
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Post by wolf on Aug 9, 2021 21:26:16 GMT
....just one note of thought on this, I do believe Fiennes was held in high regard, and greatly lauded, long before he deigned to grace the Potter flicks. 🙂 Ralph is an excellent actor. Aye!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2021 4:48:37 GMT
I saw The Green Knight and it was not good, it just felt like they were trying too hard to turn a 700 year old legend into a 2 hour movie. That being said, the titular Green Knight did look cool, his whole aesthetic reminds me of a Dark Souls boss.
One Hour Photo is a movie I finally watched after waiting awhile for it to get on streaming, great thriller. I think Robin plays an excellent character who is both creepy and immoral, while also being someone you feel bad for. Great acting. I find the fact that the kid describes the Evangelion action figure as being a "Good Guy" though, and even funnier that he teaches Robin's character about the show even though the writer clearly knows nothing about it yet Robin Williams was a big fan of the show irl. I don't know who let a 9 year old watch Evangelion but the last few episodes and the movie would traumatize most children and send them into an edgy nihilist phase too young in life.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2021 4:50:44 GMT
That quote of Bill's in Silence, I've lost track how many times I've seen people wearing this shirt. Dollarhyde may have been the killer with more story, Jame Gumb is far more iconic. As for Hopkins, another film I like him in a lot but many said he was iffy in it, was the Wolf Man. I thought he did just fine in that film, many disagree with me however. And many think the final fight between he and his son in the film was "too WWE", I thought it was handled just fine. One mistake, they cut out a lot of scenes after he turns and escapes the asylum that are really well done, they have them under the bonus section on the BD but they should have put them back in the film and released a proper extended version. Oh well... c'est la vie. Hopkins is great in Silence but "Magic" is another movie where he plays a mentally disturbed character very well. It's not the best movie ever, but it's certainly the best take on an evil doll/puppet/dummy I've seen in that oversaturated genre since that one Twilight Zone episode.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2021 17:24:57 GMT
Product placement, the movie. And also, I can't believe Warner Brothers would reference a Clockwork Orange in a PG movie supposedly targeted at children, you know, those characters who violently beat and rape people on screen.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2021 21:09:56 GMT
The Seventh Seal (1957): Was a solid film with some clever philosophical exploration and Biblical imagery. As a religiously agnostic person I could relate to the main character, Antonius Block, a lot. That being said, his squire I was not a big fan of, was just really creepy sexually manhandling the woman he just rescued as if he now owns her. Still, great movie, 9/10.
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Post by wolf on Aug 15, 2021 9:47:57 GMT
The Seventh Seal (1957): Was a solid film with some clever philosophical exploration and Biblical imagery. As a religiously agnostic person I could relate to the main character, Antonius Block, a lot. That being said, his squire I was not a big fan of, was just really creepy sexually manhandling the woman he just rescued as if he now owns her. Still, great movie, 9/10. I have GOT to find this film and see it all the way through!Alas!.....I am so distraught that I have only gotten to see parts of it thus far in my years on this fine Earth! smilie_wut_086 😔💔So his squire was not as much of a 'Sancho Panzo' to this particular knight?Sounds like he may have been a bit more akin to 'Othello's Iago'.Bringing up another movie here...
Who has seen Guillermo del Toro's "The Shape Of Water"?! It's a visual feast to say the least! It's a wonderfully well done new take on a' Beauty and the Beast' story, with some 'Creature from the Black Lagoon' in the superb artistic mix. Everything about this film is great.
Also, I recently got to check out 'Hannibal' again. Just have to talk about that some more sometime soon.
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