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Post by Deviancy on Mar 10, 2021 20:14:47 GMT
I've been watching Let Me In again lately and I think I'm ready for the Swedish version, even though I've heard the "guardian" in the Swedish one has a pedo vibe, while in Let Me In, he has more of a brother vibe, imo. Anywho, I also want to read the book but I need a little assistance if possible. Does anyone know if there is a hardcover edition of the novel? I checked Amazon and Abe and didn't see one listed, so I'm assuming its a no go, at least not an english version.
Secondly, when it comes to ordering books online, anyone have any praise for online retailers that actually ship the books in mint condition? I used to use Amazon but the books usually are a big banged up, and same goes for Barnes and Noble.
And finally, King praises the hell out of the book and 'Let Me In', do any of you feel it's one of the best horror stories in the last twenty years like King and others do? I mean I know the themes, and I realize it won't touch on the Reagan stuff like Let Me In because I believe it takes place in Europe rather than the US, but that doesn't concern me, well it does take a little part of being able to relate to the kids because listening to Reagan, like the kid was, I was just as weirded out. We don't discuss politics here, I realize that, but I'm just mentioning the Reagan part from the film because it did play into relating to how Owen felt about things. Not sure what the actor who played Owen went on to do other than X-Men. But to be fair, I had no f'in clue that Leo's pal in Gangs Of New York was Elliot from ET for a few years, then I was like, something is just familiar about this guy, so I hit IMDB and was like, whoah.
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Post by wolf on Mar 10, 2021 21:27:54 GMT
I've been watching Let Me In again lately and I think I'm ready for the Swedish version, even though I've heard the "guardian" in the Swedish one has a pedo vibe, while in Let Me In, he has more of a brother vibe, imo. Anywho, I also want to read the book but I need a little assistance if possible. Does anyone know if there is a hardcover edition of the novel? I checked Amazon and Abe and didn't see one listed, so I'm assuming its a no go, at least not an english version. Secondly, when it comes to ordering books online, anyone have any praise for online retailers that actually ship the books in mint condition? I used to use Amazon but the books usually are a big banged up, and same goes for Barnes and Noble. And finally, King praises the hell out of the book and 'Let Me In', do any of you feel it's one of the best horror stories in the last twenty years like King and others do? I mean I know the themes, and I realize it won't touch on the Reagan stuff like Let Me In because I believe it takes place in Europe rather than the US, but that doesn't concern me, well it does take a little part of being able to relate to the kids because listening to Reagan, like the kid was, I was just as weirded out. We don't discuss politics here, I realize that, but I'm just mentioning the Reagan part from the film because it did play into relating to how Owen felt about things. Not sure what the actor who played Owen went on to do other than X-Men. But to be fair, I had no f'in clue that Leo's pal in Gangs Of New York was Elliot from ET for a few years, then I was like, something is just familiar about this guy, so I hit IMDB and was like, whoah. Owen?...do you mean Oskar? (in the American film version 'Let me in')...if so, that would be Kodi Smitt McPhee. He did go on to portray 'Nightcrawler' in one of the X-Men films. He also starred in 'Alpha' and was in the 2nd(?) updated 'Planet of the Apes' movie.
Sounds like the book might be a pretty good read.
Okay! Never mind! Just saw a review, 'Owen' was the character in the American version, and 'Oskar' was in the Euro version. Had to look up McPhee's character's name. Been awhile since I've seen that flick.
www.imdb.com/title/tt1228987/
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Post by wolf on Mar 10, 2021 22:02:54 GMT
I've been watching Let Me In again lately and I think I'm ready for the Swedish version, even though I've heard the "guardian" in the Swedish one has a pedo vibe, while in Let Me In, he has more of a brother vibe, imo. Anywho, I also want to read the book but I need a little assistance if possible. Does anyone know if there is a hardcover edition of the novel? I checked Amazon and Abe and didn't see one listed, so I'm assuming its a no go, at least not an english version. Secondly, when it comes to ordering books online, anyone have any praise for online retailers that actually ship the books in mint condition? I used to use Amazon but the books usually are a big banged up, and same goes for Barnes and Noble. And finally, King praises the hell out of the book and 'Let Me In', do any of you feel it's one of the best horror stories in the last twenty years like King and others do? I mean I know the themes, and I realize it won't touch on the Reagan stuff like Let Me In because I believe it takes place in Europe rather than the US, but that doesn't concern me, well it does take a little part of being able to relate to the kids because listening to Reagan, like the kid was, I was just as weirded out. We don't discuss politics here, I realize that, but I'm just mentioning the Reagan part from the film because it did play into relating to how Owen felt about things. Not sure what the actor who played Owen went on to do other than X-Men. But to be fair, I had no f'in clue that Leo's pal in Gangs Of New York was Elliot from ET for a few years, then I was like, something is just familiar about this guy, so I hit IMDB and was like, whoah. Owen?...do you mean Oskar? (in the American film version 'Let me in')...if so, that would be Kodi Smitt McPhee. He did go on to portray 'Nightcrawler' in one of the X-Men films. He also starred in 'Alpha' and was in the 2nd(?) updated 'Planet of the Apes' movie.
Sounds like the book might be a pretty good read.
Okay! Never mind! Just saw a review, 'Owen' was the character in the American version, and 'Oskar' was in the Euro version. Had to look up McPhee's character's name. Been awhile since I've seen that flick.
www.imdb.com/title/tt1228987/
The story overall reminds me of a short story I read back in the mid 80's...by Silverberg, I think. But it wasn't a vampir story, the girl was the daughter of an Alchemist. It may have been in one of Dell's "The Years Best Sci-Fi" short story collections. Alas....had a lot of things stolen from a storage building around that time, so don't have that particular book on hand anymore.
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Post by wolf on Mar 10, 2021 22:09:11 GMT
Movies AND Books... Talk about it people.
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Post by wolf on Mar 10, 2021 22:16:55 GMT
Hey Deviancy , moved your thread/discussion to here.
You did nothing wrong, it's just that the 'Group Reading Discussion' section is there for those participating in the organized reading group. You are more than welcome to read and comment on whatever the group is reading at the time, and past discussions on stories/books also, whenever you want to. 🙂
wireman ? Little help? I am correct about all that, aren't I? Thanks guys. 🙂
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Post by wireman on Mar 10, 2021 22:43:49 GMT
Hey Deviancy , moved your thread/discussion to here.
You did nothing wrong, it's just that the 'Group Reading Discussion' section is there for those participating in the organized reading group. You are more than welcome to read and comment on whatever the group is reading at the time, and past discussions on stories/books also, whenever you want to. 🙂
wireman ? Little help? I am correct about all that, aren't I? Thanks guys. 🙂 Deviancy - we have a group discussion of short stories and we pick one a week (more or less) for discussion every Wed. So those threads are very specific so Wolf just moved the post to the appropriate thread. You are more than welcome to participate in the group reads we do every week. We are discussing HG Well's Pollock and the Porroh Man today and next week is a Peter Straub story.
As far as Let Me In, I like the Swedish version best although the American one is excellent too. I think the Swedish movie has a more isolated feel to it.
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Post by wolf on Mar 10, 2021 23:16:57 GMT
Hey Deviancy , moved your thread/discussion to here.
You did nothing wrong, it's just that the 'Group Reading Discussion' section is there for those participating in the organized reading group. You are more than welcome to read and comment on whatever the group is reading at the time, and past discussions on stories/books also, whenever you want to. 🙂
wireman ? Little help? I am correct about all that, aren't I? Thanks guys. 🙂 Deviancy - we have a group discussion of short stories and we pick one a week (more or less) for discussion every Wed. So those threads are very specific so Wolf just moved the post to the appropriate thread. You are more than welcome to participate in the group reads we do every week. We are discussing HG Well's Pollock and the Porroh Man today and next week is a Peter Straub story.
As far as Let Me In, I like the Swedish version best although the American one is excellent too. I think the Swedish movie has a more isolated feel to it.
Thank you, sir Appreciate you. 🙂
...I would like to see the Swedish version 'Let the right one in' Deviancy , as well as read the book.
This whole thing is making me think of 'The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo'. I have seen the newer version with Rooney Mara, haven't seen the original with Noomi Repace. Not a big fan of Repace. Recently saw 'The Girl in the Spider's Web', I liked it alright. Story was good. But really missed the original cast. Not a fan of Claire Foy either, she was a let down after seeing Mara do this character. But I think she did a pretty good job of trying to carry on Salander CLOSE to Mara's style. (...close...but no cigar.) Would rather have seen Mara come back and resume the part, it was a disappointment she didn't. (I would also really like to read these books as well) Just like when Foster didn't come back as Clarice. Julianne Moore was...mmm...okay.
I will say that Gaspard Ulliel was an interesting Hannibal in 'Hannibal Rising'. Though nothing like a young Hopkins would be, of course.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2021 2:52:11 GMT
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Post by wolf on Mar 11, 2021 3:19:26 GMT
Boy! 🤨
.....pick ONE and just go with it! Talk about it. 😊😉
...I'm just kidding you Panda. 😊
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Post by Deviancy on Mar 11, 2021 3:38:11 GMT
As far as Let Me In, I like the Swedish version best although the American one is excellent too I may give give the Swedish version this week but damn, its got stiff competition, Let Me In is easily one of the best vamp flicks in awhile, and Owen was super easy to relate to. My dad showed up every week or two but for like a few hours, and I had to endure bullying until I finally kicked the bully in the head, Owen went a different route, and I had a thing with the new girl who moved into the neighborhood, but she wasn't a vampire, but she was a little older. So yeah, being able to relate to Owen really plays a role in why I like the story. If I can relate to Oskar the same way, despite the language barrier, I imagine I'll enjoy it just the same. Heard the Koreans are really doing wicked horror stuff these days but I'm a bit behind these days.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2021 6:29:26 GMT
Boy! 🤨
.....pick ONE and just go with it! Talk about it. 😊😉
...I'm just kidding you Panda. 😊 just a top 42 list as of now, opinions subject to change of course
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Post by Deviancy on Mar 11, 2021 19:03:10 GMT
I just finished watching Let The Right One In and I didn't even really need the subtitles during the bully scenes, the dialog is very, very similar to Let Me In, actually, the films are pretty much identical, there's little difference between Oskar and Owen, even their acting is on the same level. One has to wonder what their lives would be like after the end of the story, I mean both are kids so I guess they'd just drift from town to town and maybe squat in abandoned homes and whatnot. Anywho, while the films are nearly identical, I still enjoyed the Swedish version but in the end, I'd have to say the US version is a touch better but only because it uses the satanic/panic/Reagan bits and because of Chloe. But while it is better, its only a tad better.
Really wish there was a hardcover edition but there's two different versions of the paperback, one with the cast from the Swedish film, and one with a blue spine, or so it appears in screenshots, and I think a swing.
Anywho, both are good films, one just has a comic book prequel which gives it a bit more story. The comic book prequel is pretty damn good and I believe they wanted to pick up where the film left off and follow Owen and Abby but that never happened, as far as I know.
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Post by Deviancy on Mar 12, 2021 3:52:09 GMT
One thing about both films, the bullies, they really were done in such an intense way. I think I'm starting to understand why King likes it so much, its horror and has supernatural elements but is so damn realistic, not unlike some of his stories.
Curious what Rice thinks of the story, she was the Queen of vampire fiction for awhile but well, her story arc finally kind of sank. No one ever talks about Lestat anymore, not sure why since I only ever read one of the stories, and it wasn't Interview, it was about a female vampire, think it was called Silk or something.
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Post by wireman on Mar 12, 2021 13:43:30 GMT
One thing about both films, the bullies, they really were done in such an intense way. I think I'm starting to understand why King likes it so much, its horror and has supernatural elements but is so damn realistic, not unlike some of his stories. Curious what Rice thinks of the story, she was the Queen of vampire fiction for awhile but well, her story arc finally kind of sank. No one ever talks about Lestat anymore, not sure why since I only ever read one of the stories, and it wasn't Interview, it was about a female vampire, think it was called Silk or something. Yes, the films seem very realistic for horror films. The loneliness and isolation of both kids make the viewer empathetic to the characters even though horrible things are going on.
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Post by Deviancy on Mar 12, 2021 21:51:21 GMT
Yes, the films seem very realistic for horror films. The loneliness and isolation of both kids make the viewer empathetic to the characters even though horrible things are going on. Ginger Snaps basically did the same with the werewolf genre but as much as I like that film, the Let films did it better. I was checking random top ten vampire film lists today, almost every single site has 'Let The Right One In" as either #1 or #2. Its almost book time, but I heard there's now a deluxe edition featuring the short epilogue he wrote later on about them getting off the train, not sure if there's an english version of the combined version though.
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Post by wireman on Mar 12, 2021 21:54:03 GMT
Yes, the films seem very realistic for horror films. The loneliness and isolation of both kids make the viewer empathetic to the characters even though horrible things are going on. Ginger Snaps basically did the same with the werewolf genre but as much as I like that film, the Let films did it better. I was checking random top ten vampire film lists today, almost every single site has 'Let The Right One In" as either #1 or #2. Its almost book time, but I heard there's now a deluxe edition featuring the short epilogue he wrote later on about them getting off the train, not sure if there's an english version of the combined version though. Time to ask Kurben
@kurben
Kurben have you read Let The Right One In? I think I saw a post a while back that you had. If so, what did you think of it?
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Post by Deviancy on Mar 12, 2021 23:49:39 GMT
@kurben Kurben have you read Let The Right One In? I think I saw a post a while back that you had. If so, what did you think of it? While we wait for a potential thumbs up or down, I have read that the films both are faithful but just don't lean on the vampire elements as heavily or bring up how Eli was a boy and castrated by I believe his/her sire, Eli does have a scar in the Swedish film however which can be a hint to the castration. Not sure what the writer was going for with that bit, double torture? I'm sure he mentions what the point of the castration was in some interview, but I'm not going to go digging for that info, maybe after I read it.
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Post by wolf on Mar 13, 2021 0:01:32 GMT
@kurben Kurben have you read Let The Right One In? I think I saw a post a while back that you had. If so, what did you think of it? While we wait for a potential thumbs up or down, I have read that the films both are faithful but just don't lean on the vampire elements as heavily or bring up how Eli was a boy and castrated by I believe his/her sire, Eli does have a scar in the Swedish film however which can be a hint to the castration. Not sure what the writer was going for with that bit, double torture? I'm sure he mentions what the point of the castration was in some interview, but I'm not going to go digging for that info, maybe after I read it. ...hmmm...reminiscent of a Rice book I started once, about the 'Castrati', in the beginning of the tale. Interesting notes....but let's ease up on the torture and castrations, thank you. A wee bit too darkly detailed, I'm thinkin'.
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Post by Deviancy on Mar 13, 2021 1:07:37 GMT
but let's ease up on the torture and castrations, thank you. A wee bit too darkly detailed, I'm thinkin'. No issue there, just mentioned it seems to be one of only two things different between the book and the films. Personally, having not read the book yet, I'm thinking I could do without that part but having not read it yet, for all I know, it plays heavily into who Eli/Abby is when she meets Oskar/Owen. Anywho... back in a few to touch on a few other bits.
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Post by wolf on Mar 13, 2021 1:25:59 GMT
but let's ease up on the torture and castrations, thank you. A wee bit too darkly detailed, I'm thinkin'. No issue there, just mentioned it seems to be one of only two things different between the book and the films. Personally, having not read the book yet, I'm thinking I could do without that part but having not read it yet, for all I know, it plays heavily into who Eli/Abby is when she meets Oskar/Owen. Anywho... back in a few to touch on a few other bits. I can dig that. ...I just don't think that some darker material is worth delving into, too deeply. Just keeping a lid on it all. 🙂 Please do come back with more!
And one of these days, start your "Silence of the Lambs" type thread(s). (here, in this thread, might be a good place?...after discussion on "Let me in" and company is exhausted? Maybe.🙂) .....looking forward to your observations and thoughts on any of those books and movies. 🙂
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