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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2020 14:25:16 GMT
Lovecraft Halloween Marathon
1: Dagon 2: The Thing at the Doorstep 3: The Temple 4: The Hound 5: Nyarlathotep 6: The Nameless City 7: Azathoth 8: The Festival 9: The Call of Cthulu 10: The Colour Out of Space 11: The History of the Necronomicon 12: The Outsider 13: The Music of Erich Zahn 14: The White Ship 15: Cool Air 16: Pickman’s Model 17: The Curse of Yig 18: The Dunwich Horror 19: Herbert West: Reanimator 20: The Terrible Old Man 21: The Whisperer in Darkness 22: The Mound 23: The Shadow Over Insmouth
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2020 19:00:55 GMT
I have. It's alright. My completed stories so far. 1: Dagon 2: The Thing at the Doorstep 3: The Temple 4: The Hound 5: Nyarlathotep 6: The Nameless City 7: Azathoth 8: The Festival 9: The Call of Cthulu 10: The Colour Out of Space 11: The History of the Necronomicon Colour Out of Space and Thing on the Doorstep are excellent. Call of Cthulu is good but pretty overrated, I think a lot of people like it because Cthulu is probably his most concrete description of one of his monsters, it's not terribly hard to imagine unlike some his more abstract looking beasts. The unfortunate thing about CoC is it's definitely a story where you do see a bit of Lovecraft's more racist side, like how he casually refers to black people as "negroes". It's an unfortunate thing about the man, but I guess being a white man in the 1920s-30s unfortunately made him raised to have those views. Doesn't make me respect his imagination less though, it's just something you have to ignore in order to enjoy his storytelling. Alexander Dumas, who was a half Black Frenchmen (his colonial roots coming from Algeria), used to say that he wished his mother was white, as he believed that his intelligence came from his father's side. Nobody talks about "cancelling" his work. Dumas and Lovecraft are literary giants, and they were products of their time. Judging authors who lived centuries ago by modern standards is ridiculous. Most overemphasise Lovecraft's use of that word, he was more fanatical about his hatred of Jews, but his wife was Jewish, so there is that, but that's not something that is often talked about. I'm not sure if that is correct, no biggie either way but as i remember it it was his grandmother who was a slave. His grandfather was a french noble named Alexandre Antoine Davy de la Pailleterie who had a son with Marie-Cessette Dumas, a slave in Saint Dominique (present Haiti, she was of african descent but i dont know from where and when) (he later, before he moved back to france, sold her and the daughters he had by her to a french baron). This son, Thomas Alexandre Dumas Davy de la Pailleterie the father brought to France as a 14 year old and he entered the military and became a wellknown and respected General under Napoleon. He married Marie-Louise Elisabeth Labouret, an innkeepers daughter. After his death the family became very poor because the father did not get his pension from the army that almost everyone got. He choose to write under the name of Dumas, just as his father had chosed that name to be known under, in spite of never having seen the grandmother whose name it was. He was always very negative about Napoleon because of the injustice towards his father and the sacrifice his two older sisters and mother had done for him to give him an education. All that he and his family considered Napoleons fault.
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Post by edwardjohn on Oct 23, 2020 19:11:51 GMT
Alexander Dumas, who was a half Black Frenchmen (his colonial roots coming from Algeria), used to say that he wished his mother was white, as he believed that his intelligence came from his father's side. Nobody talks about "cancelling" his work. Dumas and Lovecraft are literary giants, and they were products of their time. Judging authors who lived centuries ago by modern standards is ridiculous. Most overemphasise Lovecraft's use of that word, he was more fanatical about his hatred of Jews, but his wife was Jewish, so there is that, but that's not something that is often talked about. I'm not sure if that is correct, no biggie either way but as i remember it it was his grandmother who was a slave. His grandfather was a french noble named Alexandre Antoine Davy de la Pailleterie who had a son with Marie-Cessette Dumas, a slave in Saint Dominique (present Haiti, she was of african descent but i dont know from where and when) (he later, before he moved back to france, sold her and the daughters he had by her to a french baron). This son, Thomas Alexandre Dumas Davy de la Pailleterie the father brought to France as a 14 year old and he entered the military and became a wellknown and respected General under Napoleon. He married Marie-Louise Elisabeth Labouret, an innkeepers daughter. After his death the family became very poor because the father did not get his pension from the army that almost everyone got. He choose to write under the name of Dumas, just as his father had chosed that name to be known under, in spite of never having seen the grandmother whose name it was. He was always very negative about Napoleon because of the injustice towards his father and the sacrifice his two older sisters and mother had done for him to give him an education. All that he and his family considered Napoleons fault. You're probably right. I'm no Dumas expert, but I do remember him saying something akin to that, I wouldn't of made that up I don't think.
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Post by edwardjohn on Oct 23, 2020 19:12:48 GMT
Lovecraft Halloween Marathon 1: Dagon 2: The Thing at the Doorstep 3: The Temple 4: The Hound 5: Nyarlathotep 6: The Nameless City 7: Azathoth 8: The Festival 9: The Call of Cthulu 10: The Colour Out of Space 11: The History of the Necronomicon 12: The Outsider 13: The Music of Erich Zahn 14: The White Ship 15: Cool Air 16: Pickman’s Model 17: The Curse of Yig 18: The Dunwich Horror 19: Herbert West: Reanimator 20: The Terrible Old Man 21: The Whisperer in Darkness 22: The Mound 23: The Shadow Over Insmouth You should check out the Colour Out of Space film.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2020 21:16:05 GMT
Lovecraft Halloween Marathon 1: Dagon 2: The Thing at the Doorstep 3: The Temple 4: The Hound 5: Nyarlathotep 6: The Nameless City 7: Azathoth 8: The Festival 9: The Call of Cthulu 10: The Colour Out of Space 11: The History of the Necronomicon 12: The Outsider 13: The Music of Erich Zahn 14: The White Ship 15: Cool Air 16: Pickman’s Model 17: The Curse of Yig 18: The Dunwich Horror 19: Herbert West: Reanimator 20: The Terrible Old Man 21: The Whisperer in Darkness 22: The Mound 23: The Shadow Over Insmouth You should check out the Colour Out of Space film. You're going to have to be more specific about which one.
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Post by edwardjohn on Oct 23, 2020 21:38:17 GMT
You should check out the Colour Out of Space film. You're going to have to be more specific about which one.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2020 22:49:02 GMT
You're going to have to be more specific about which one. Idk, I think the Colour Out of Space is definitely something I might be disappointed in an adaptation of. I think the best way to represent a nonexistent color would be to make everything black and white until the color consumes it. Think the villain of the story is the most abstract of any of Lovecraft's creatures. So I feel like a film would be hard to put it in a visually tangible form when it's literally a carnivorous, infectiotory, unimaginable color from an alien planet living in a well and draining the life of everything around it.
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Post by edwardjohn on Oct 23, 2020 23:18:05 GMT
Idk, I think the Colour Out of Space is definitely something I might be disappointed in an adaptation of. I think the best way to represent a nonexistent color would be to make everything black and white until the color consumes it. Think the villain of the story is the most abstract of any of Lovecraft's creatures. So I feel like a film would be hard to put it in a visually tangible form when it's literally a carnivorous, infectiotory, unimaginable color from an alien planet living in a well and draining the life of everything around it. Its worth a shot, I think you might be surprised, Richard Stanley is a massive Lovecraft fan and he plans on doing The Dunwhich Horror, and finishing with an Old Ones story.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2020 4:37:39 GMT
Idk, I think the Colour Out of Space is definitely something I might be disappointed in an adaptation of. I think the best way to represent a nonexistent color would be to make everything black and white until the color consumes it. Think the villain of the story is the most abstract of any of Lovecraft's creatures. So I feel like a film would be hard to put it in a visually tangible form when it's literally a carnivorous, infectiotory, unimaginable color from an alien planet living in a well and draining the life of everything around it. Its worth a shot, I think you might be surprised, Richard Stanley is a massive Lovecraft fan and he plans on doing The Dunwhich Horror, and finishing with an Old Ones story. Perhaps I'll check it out sometime later. I still have quite the multitude of Lovecraft stories that I want to read but haven't yet. I'm am about to undertake reading one of his longest stories, At the Mountains of Madness, in a few minutes from writing this. I want to at least finish the rest of the stories on a list I found of Lovecraft stories considered canon in the Cthulu Mythos, which I still have 8 stories left to finish. After that I still want to get to some of his other works even then, such as Red Hook and Dexter Ward. Lots of ambition for cramming reading his stories. I'm considering reading Mary Shelley's Frankenstein afterwards, but I don't want to get too ahead of myself. Using the free ebooks on the official Lovecraft website has been fine for the most part. But at the Mountains is about 90 pages in print, which is pretty hard to read in a continually scrolling down format. Honestly wish I had a paperback (I do own a hardcopy collection of some of Lovecraft's works, but I have not been using it as I hate the dimensions of the pages it has, they're nearly square shaped so the text is very weirdly formatted because of it). Anyways, my top 5 Lovecraft stories as of yet. 5: Nameless City 4: The Dunwich Horror 3: The Shadow Over Innsmouth 2: The Thing at the Doorstep 1: The Colour Out of Space 1 and 2 are nearly interchangable because I both enjoyed them so much and think they are nigh perfect works of horror short stories. While I have enjoyed the other work mentioned, not even #3 comes close to how much I enjoyed those two. As for other stories, Although I did think Call of Cthulhu was decent, I did not think it was nearly as grande as it's made out to be. It's a cool story, but I think my expectations were somewhat heightened due to this being the title story of one of most prominent antagonists of Lovecraft lore. I think one reason Cthulu is so popular is that he's probably the least abstract of most of Lovecraft's creatures. It's a cool monster design that doesn't really require a huge stretch of the mind to imagine what the description in his work entails, and I definetly get the appeal of that compared to some of Lovecraft's more wordier and sometimes redundant avoidance of description by "Oh my, it's so horrible, I'm going mad". Obviously madness and terror are the exact point of Lovecraft's work, but he definitely does a much more believable and creative use of this concept better in some certain stories rather than all of them. Regardless of my minor criticisms of how wordy he gets sometimes, I'm still definitely having fun watching his grand mythos be built brick by brick throughout the Mythos-canon stories, and even the stories I didn't like at least introduce an interesting concept or two (Like The Mound, probably my least favorite of them all, then again it was only released posthumously abridged monumentally compared to what the original work apparently was, so I can't really say it's his fault is he didn't actually intend for it to be released in that manner). C'thulu Fhtagn!
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Post by edwardjohn on Oct 24, 2020 14:10:10 GMT
Its worth a shot, I think you might be surprised, Richard Stanley is a massive Lovecraft fan and he plans on doing The Dunwhich Horror, and finishing with an Old Ones story. Perhaps I'll check it out sometime later. I still have quite the multitude of Lovecraft stories that I want to read but haven't yet. I'm am about to undertake reading one of his longest stories, At the Mountains of Madness, in a few minutes from writing this. I want to at least finish the rest of the stories on a list I found of Lovecraft stories considered canon in the Cthulu Mythos, which I still have 8 stories left to finish. After that I still want to get to some of his other works even then, such as Red Hook and Dexter Ward. Lots of ambition for cramming reading his stories. I'm considering reading Mary Shelley's Frankenstein afterwards, but I don't want to get too ahead of myself. Using the free ebooks on the official Lovecraft website has been fine for the most part. But at the Mountains is about 90 pages in print, which is pretty hard to read in a continually scrolling down format. Honestly wish I had a paperback (I do own a hardcopy collection of some of Lovecraft's works, but I have not been using it as I hate the dimensions of the pages it has, they're nearly square shaped so the text is very weirdly formatted because of it). Anyways, my top 5 Lovecraft stories as of yet. 5: Nameless City 4: The Dunwich Horror 3: The Shadow Over Innsmouth 2: The Thing at the Doorstep 1: The Colour Out of Space 1 and 2 are nearly interchangable because I both enjoyed them so much and think they are nigh perfect works of horror short stories. While I have enjoyed the other work mentioned, not even #3 comes close to how much I enjoyed those two. As for other stories, Although I did think Call of Cthulhu was decent, I did not think it was nearly as grande as it's made out to be. It's a cool story, but I think my expectations were somewhat heightened due to this being the title story of one of most prominent antagonists of Lovecraft lore. I think one reason Cthulu is so popular is that he's probably the least abstract of most of Lovecraft's creatures. It's a cool monster design that doesn't really require a huge stretch of the mind to imagine what the description in his work entails, and I definetly get the appeal of that compared to some of Lovecraft's more wordier and sometimes redundant avoidance of description by "Oh my, it's so horrible, I'm going mad". Obviously madness and terror are the exact point of Lovecraft's work, but he definitely does a much more believable and creative use of this concept better in some certain stories rather than all of them. Regardless of my minor criticisms of how wordy he gets sometimes, I'm still definitely having fun watching his grand mythos be built brick by brick throughout the Mythos-canon stories, and even the stories I didn't like at least introduce an interesting concept or two (Like The Mound, probably my least favorite of them all, then again it was only released posthumously abridged monumentally compared to what the original work apparently was, so I can't really say it's his fault is he didn't actually intend for it to be released in that manner). C'thulu Fhtagn! I may have mentioned this before, But Robert E. Howard and Lovecraft were good friends, exchanging a lot of letters with each other. Howard loved Lovecraft's Cthulu Mythos and added references to it any chance he got, when you are done with Lovecraft you should check out Howard's Cthulu stories, as most are in the public domain. There is a book on Amazon called "Tales of the Cthulu Mythos", in which different authors have written Cthulu stories, from August Derlith, Howard, Clark-Ashton-Smith, Bloch etc. Its really great.
Lovecraft understood madness/insanity incredibly well. His parents went insane, and this was at a time in history when there was a real gulf between sanity and insanity, in the early twentieth century it meant a lot to go insane.
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Post by edwardjohn on Oct 24, 2020 16:05:10 GMT
Its worth a shot, I think you might be surprised, Richard Stanley is a massive Lovecraft fan and he plans on doing The Dunwhich Horror, and finishing with an Old Ones story. Perhaps I'll check it out sometime later. I still have quite the multitude of Lovecraft stories that I want to read but haven't yet. I'm am about to undertake reading one of his longest stories, At the Mountains of Madness, in a few minutes from writing this. I want to at least finish the rest of the stories on a list I found of Lovecraft stories considered canon in the Cthulu Mythos, which I still have 8 stories left to finish. After that I still want to get to some of his other works even then, such as Red Hook and Dexter Ward. Lots of ambition for cramming reading his stories. I'm considering reading Mary Shelley's Frankenstein afterwards, but I don't want to get too ahead of myself. Using the free ebooks on the official Lovecraft website has been fine for the most part. But at the Mountains is about 90 pages in print, which is pretty hard to read in a continually scrolling down format. Honestly wish I had a paperback (I do own a hardcopy collection of some of Lovecraft's works, but I have not been using it as I hate the dimensions of the pages it has, they're nearly square shaped so the text is very weirdly formatted because of it). Anyways, my top 5 Lovecraft stories as of yet. 5: Nameless City 4: The Dunwich Horror 3: The Shadow Over Innsmouth 2: The Thing at the Doorstep 1: The Colour Out of Space 1 and 2 are nearly interchangable because I both enjoyed them so much and think they are nigh perfect works of horror short stories. While I have enjoyed the other work mentioned, not even #3 comes close to how much I enjoyed those two. As for other stories, Although I did think Call of Cthulhu was decent, I did not think it was nearly as grande as it's made out to be. It's a cool story, but I think my expectations were somewhat heightened due to this being the title story of one of most prominent antagonists of Lovecraft lore. I think one reason Cthulu is so popular is that he's probably the least abstract of most of Lovecraft's creatures. It's a cool monster design that doesn't really require a huge stretch of the mind to imagine what the description in his work entails, and I definetly get the appeal of that compared to some of Lovecraft's more wordier and sometimes redundant avoidance of description by "Oh my, it's so horrible, I'm going mad". Obviously madness and terror are the exact point of Lovecraft's work, but he definitely does a much more believable and creative use of this concept better in some certain stories rather than all of them. Regardless of my minor criticisms of how wordy he gets sometimes, I'm still definitely having fun watching his grand mythos be built brick by brick throughout the Mythos-canon stories, and even the stories I didn't like at least introduce an interesting concept or two (Like The Mound, probably my least favorite of them all, then again it was only released posthumously abridged monumentally compared to what the original work apparently was, so I can't really say it's his fault is he didn't actually intend for it to be released in that manner). C'thulu Fhtagn! Also,
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.
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Post by edwardjohn on Oct 25, 2020 2:56:26 GMT
@wayoftheredpanda You should check out the story we are doing in the discussion group, from Algernon Blackwood, one of HP Lovecraft's favourite writers. Blackwood is great.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2020 3:19:19 GMT
@wayoftheredpanda You should check out the story we are doing in the discussion group, from Algernon Blackwood, one of HP Lovecraft's favourite writers. Blackwood is great. Maybe. Am reading Mountains of Madness though. I like the setting. I managed to pick up a couple Lovecraft volumes in paperback form for less than 10 bucks today so it's easier to read them now compared to the free text document copies on his website.
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Post by wireman on Oct 26, 2020 14:37:20 GMT
This will be me on Halloween
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2020 15:40:32 GMT
This will be me on Halloween
Dont you think that 1 % is a bit much?? I mean, its Halloween!!!
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Post by wireman on Oct 26, 2020 17:07:48 GMT
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Post by osnafrank on Oct 26, 2020 17:54:20 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2020 22:46:30 GMT
I just finished At the Mountains of Madness. It's pretty damn good, and essential to Lovecraft's greater mythology.
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Post by Steffen on Oct 30, 2020 15:23:32 GMT
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Post by osnafrank on Oct 30, 2020 16:58:54 GMT
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