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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2020 12:49:22 GMT
Have you ever experienced that? To be on a place and feel a close connection with a past, historic, event or person? I mean, i have been to graves of people i loved and sometimes well up a bit but a person or persons you do not know, just heard, read about, or a historic event that did not affect you personally many years back? I have been to battlefields from the 30-years war, like Lützen but not felt anything special. But once i did get that sense of closeness and it was very powerful. This is my story of that and if you have similar please share.
In 1997 i and a friend made a vacation trip to Cracow. That is the polish town, former capital, that was lucky enough, unlike Warsaw, to not be bombed during WW2. Very beautiful city. Outside the city, about 50 KM west of the city there is a small town called Oswiecim. You might not have heard of it but its better known under its german name, Auschwitz. When we were there there was very few people there. Our guide wasn't very good in english and i soon realized i know as much if not more about it as he. So i drifted away and went for myself. I had wanted to see it but did not expect to feel it. You got the feeling that the border between now and then were very thin right were i was. I didnät actually hear whispers but i definitely felt them. I saw an exhibition big as a tabletennis table and about three meters high filled with goldteeth and nothing else. The Nazis really took everything away from them before their last moment. I saw the owens and i saw the "Showerrooms". It wasn't much left but it was enough. It is a rather big area and i think it was because i was alone that i felt something, this sense of closeness i talked about, the feeling that i just needed one step more and i would actually hear whispers of men long gone. I never felt that anywhere else. And even if i hadn't felt what i felt it was an experience. Somehow it made it easier to understand the enormity of it. You read about it, you memorize the numbers but you don't really understand. That visit made me understand in a different and fuller way, perhaps not all of it, somehow the enormity of it makes total understanding close to impossible.
Anyway, just wanted to share that and wonder if you experienced something similar?
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Post by edwardjohn on Jul 17, 2020 14:22:47 GMT
Bannockburn.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2020 14:22:52 GMT
Have you ever experienced that? To be on a place and feel a close connection with a past, historic, event or person? I mean, i have been to graves of people i loved and sometimes well up a bit but a person or persons you do not know, just heard, read about, or a historic event that did not affect you personally many years back? I have been to battlefields from the 30-years war, like Lützen but not felt anything special. But once i did get that sense of closeness and it was very powerful. This is my story of that and if you have similar please share.
In 1997 i and a friend made a vacation trip to Cracow. That is the polish town, former capital, that was lucky enough, unlike Warsaw, to not be bombed during WW2. Very beautiful city. Outside the city, about 50 KM west of the city there is a small town called Oswiecim. You might not have heard of it but its better known under its german name, Auschwitz. When we were there there was very few people there. Our guide wasn't very good in english and i soon realized i know as much if not more about it as he. So i drifted away and went for myself. I had wanted to see it but did not expect to feel it. You got the feeling that the border between now and then were very thin right were i was. I didnät actually hear whispers but i definitely felt them. I saw an exhibition big as a tabletennis table and about three meters high filled with goldteeth and nothing else. The Nazis really took everything away from them before their last moment. I saw the owens and i saw the "Showerrooms". It wasn't much left but it was enough. It is a rather big area and i think it was because i was alone that i felt something, this sense of closeness i talked about, the feeling that i just needed one step more and i would actually hear whispers of men long gone. I never felt that anywhere else. And even if i hadn't felt what i felt it was an experience. Somehow it made it easier to understand the enormity of it. You read about it, you memorize the numbers but you don't really understand. That visit made me understand in a different and fuller way, perhaps not all of it, somehow the enormity of it makes total understanding close to impossible.
Anyway, just wanted to share that and wonder if you experienced something similar? I had that feeling when I visited the USS Arizona memorial in Hawaii which sits above the sunken ship. They even had some items from a Japanese plane shot down during the attack in the memorial. I thought about what it would have been like that day for the warriors, on both sides, to realize the entire world was changing in those short few hours. |
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Post by neesy on Aug 3, 2020 20:07:46 GMT
Have you ever experienced that? To be on a place and feel a close connection with a past, historic, event or person? I mean, i have been to graves of people i loved and sometimes well up a bit but a person or persons you do not know, just heard, read about, or a historic event that did not affect you personally many years back? I have been to battlefields from the 30-years war, like Lützen but not felt anything special. But once i did get that sense of closeness and it was very powerful. This is my story of that and if you have similar please share.
In 1997 i and a friend made a vacation trip to Cracow. That is the polish town, former capital, that was lucky enough, unlike Warsaw, to not be bombed during WW2. Very beautiful city. Outside the city, about 50 KM west of the city there is a small town called Oswiecim. You might not have heard of it but its better known under its german name, Auschwitz. When we were there there was very few people there. Our guide wasn't very good in english and i soon realized i know as much if not more about it as he. So i drifted away and went for myself. I had wanted to see it but did not expect to feel it. You got the feeling that the border between now and then were very thin right were i was. I didnät actually hear whispers but i definitely felt them. I saw an exhibition big as a tabletennis table and about three meters high filled with goldteeth and nothing else. The Nazis really took everything away from them before their last moment. I saw the owens and i saw the "Showerrooms". It wasn't much left but it was enough. It is a rather big area and i think it was because i was alone that i felt something, this sense of closeness i talked about, the feeling that i just needed one step more and i would actually hear whispers of men long gone. I never felt that anywhere else. And even if i hadn't felt what i felt it was an experience. Somehow it made it easier to understand the enormity of it. You read about it, you memorize the numbers but you don't really understand. That visit made me understand in a different and fuller way, perhaps not all of it, somehow the enormity of it makes total understanding close to impossible.
Anyway, just wanted to share that and wonder if you experienced something similar? That's pretty powerful stuff you posted there - my ex said he was at Auschwitz and it was very eery - no birds could be seen there - I have never been.
I had that feeling when I visited the USS Arizona memorial in Hawaii which sits above the sunken ship. They even had some items from a Japanese plane shot down during the attack in the memorial. I thought about what it would have been like that day for the warriors, on both sides, to realize the entire world was changing in those short few hours. The only time I had such a weird feeling was after the death of my younger brother - he had committed suicide in the house and I was in a bedroom next to his. While lying on the bed a couple of days later and crying I felt a presence in the room but I was too scared to open my eyes to look.
He was only 15 years old.
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Post by morgan on Aug 4, 2020 3:32:20 GMT
I'm so sorry you had to go through that neesy. 
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Post by morgan on Aug 4, 2020 3:48:15 GMT
I felt a strong and powerful sense of closeness and awareness when I visited the Holocaust museum in DC. There was a room filled with the shoes of concentration camp victims. ("Victims" isn't a strong enough word.)
The burning, caustic smell hit me first, then a comprehension of what I was seeing. Absolutely gutting. I was young and it was so profound that I took a Holocaust studies course in college.
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Post by neesy on Aug 4, 2020 18:21:50 GMT
I'm so sorry you had to go through that neesy . |
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Post by osnafrank on Aug 4, 2020 19:34:33 GMT
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Post by neesy on Aug 6, 2020 18:39:32 GMT
Hope I didn't derail this thread
What about you Frank? Have you ever felt something similar to what others describe above?
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Post by Wicked Esther on Aug 6, 2020 18:56:18 GMT
Hope I didn't derail this thread
What about you Frank? Have you ever felt something similar to what others describe above?
There's a paranormal thread somewhere, and you might want to check that out. Some of us described feeling a "presence". And I'm sorry for the loss of your brother, neesy. Hugs. |
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Post by osnafrank on Aug 6, 2020 18:57:48 GMT
Hope I didn't derail this thread
What about you Frank? Have you ever felt something similar to what others describe above?
In 2006 i and a friend went to the concentration camp memorial in Neuengamme, near Hamburg.
Looking at all these pictures and prisoners diaries...after a while i felt like these people talk to me.
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