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Post by edwardjohn on Oct 7, 2020 16:54:49 GMT
I remember Pope Clement V from my history studies, he was the Pope who excommunicated Robert the Bruce, one of the very first Kings to be excommunicated. Admittedly, Bruce did murder someone in a Church, but it was John Comyn, a man who believed that Bruce's kingship was illegitimate, so there is that. I know there were a bunch of french kings and german holy roman emperors before that. And i remember vaguely that John Lackland was excummunicated. But that was not for murder admittedly but for wrongful marriage and apointing bishops without the OK from the pope. That Pope must have been a bit jittery if he was excommunicating guys who were simply appointing Bishops, by not asking the Pope.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2020 17:11:39 GMT
I know there were a bunch of french kings and german holy roman emperors before that. And i remember vaguely that John Lackland was excummunicated. But that was not for murder admittedly but for wrongful marriage and apointing bishops without the OK from the pope. That Pope must have been a bit jittery if he was excommunicating guys who were simply appointing Bishops, by not asking the Pope. It was a big matter of principle in the early medieval church. Many Popes were very unflexible , Gregory VII, and their worldly power very small so the right to appoint bishops (and abbots) was a right they held dear. The division of power between church and state. after about 50 years of schism a more flexible pope, Calixtus II, reached a compromise in 1122. The Concordat of Worms decided that the bishop had to swear an oath of fealty to the monarch but was selected by the church.
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Post by edwardjohn on Oct 7, 2020 17:37:05 GMT
That Pope must have been a bit jittery if he was excommunicating guys who were simply appointing Bishops, by not asking the Pope. It was a big matter of principle in the early medieval church. Many Popes were very unflexible , Gregory VII, and their worldly power very small so the right to appoint bishops (and abbots) was a right they held dear. The division of power between church and state. after about 50 years of schism a more flexible pope, Calixtus II, reached a compromise in 1122. The Concordat of Worms decided that the bishop had to swear an oath of fealty to the monarch but was selected by the church. The Catholic Church sure does despise reform as well, or they used to. I'm a student of the Hussite Wars, in which the Bohemians were the first group to successfully challenged the Catholic Church and won. Well, won would be a strong word, the compacts were very watered from what was originally intended, especially when compared to what the Radical Hussites were after. I know that the Hussite War was mainly a Hungary vs Bohemia thing rather than a Church vs Bohemia thing, but its still interesting nevertheless, Sigismund's armies were called crusaders after all. Plus the Hussite Wars were as much Civil Wars as they were Holy Wars, with the Radicals and Moderates. But it did end with the religious peace of Kutna Hora, its a shame that peace wasn't maintained right enough.
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Post by morgan on Oct 8, 2020 1:53:46 GMT
Thanks for the feedback spideyman and cat! I'm on chapter seven. There was already a tie in to Those Who Wish Me Dead, which I've read. Was hoping this would be one of his more supernatural novels, but that's okay.
cat Please read Braffet's other novels too! I started with Last Seen Leaving and read it in a day! Jack and Josie and Save Yourself are excellent as well, but darker.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2020 18:59:23 GMT
Starting to read The Hunger by Alma Katsu. Started really good. Takes place in 1846-7 when a wagontrain is heading west full of men, women and children seeking a new start. There is the hardship of nature and the disaggrements within the wagontrain but soon it dawns on them that if nature or disagreements doesn't kill them something out there is willing to do the job instead. Apparently based on the real story of an unfortunate wagontrain. The author does a really good job! I guess this is what can be called "Historical Horror" and in that way it is related to Dan Simmons Excellent The Terror.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2020 19:50:36 GMT
Finished The Hunger. Really good. Strongly recommend. Made me curious about the author, Alma Katsu, since she is new to me. Made me want to read more so i'm looking for The Deep by the same author. Takes place aboard the Titanic.
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Post by osnafrank on Oct 22, 2020 20:07:28 GMT
Finished "Wizard and Glass" so my journey to the Dark Tower...ends.
Started "The green Mile"
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2020 22:14:12 GMT
Starting two books. One fact book called Osman's Dream that is a history of the Ottoman Empire from 1300-1913 when it was destroyed during WW1. Osman was the founder. The other is Missing Person by Sarah Lotz. Its about a group of crimeenthusiasts that try to solve cold cases by the internet and especially one case. What they dont know is that the murderer is part of the group to make sure noone is getting close. The closer they get in solving the case the closer they get to activate a dormant killer. Looking forward to it. Have read other thrillers by her and they have been good.
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Post by wireman on Oct 26, 2020 12:05:39 GMT
This Boy's Life - Tobias Wolfe
I picked this up on the kindle daily deal a few days ago. I'm familiar with the movie with young Leo and Robert DeNiro and have wanted to read this. This is a memoir of Tobias Wolfe growing up with a single mom and then an abusive step father in the 50s. It reads like a novel and is a page turner. The movie adaptation was true to the book but there's a lot more detail in the book and the book is well worth reading even if you've seen the movie.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2020 16:31:27 GMT
Just acquired two books that i really wanna read. The Chill by Scott Carson (aka Michael Koryta) and The Deep by Alma Katsu. I can't start them yet, must finish others first but they are high in my TBR pile. Speaking of that pile, it is huge, when it fell over recently i had to spend hours in picking them up again!!
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Post by Wicked Esther on Oct 27, 2020 16:14:14 GMT
This Boy's Life - Tobias Wolfe
I picked this up on the kindle daily deal a few days ago. I'm familiar with the movie with young Leo and Robert DeNiro and have wanted to read this. This is a memoir of Tobias Wolfe growing up with a single mom and then an abusive step father in the 50s. It reads like a novel and is a page turner. The movie adaptation was true to the book but there's a lot more detail in the book and the book is well worth reading even if you've seen the movie.
I've been meaning to read this for years. I'm gonna make it a priority now that you've said it reads like a novel. I think that's what I needed to hear.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2020 3:27:18 GMT
After I finish my Lovecraft binge (still about 5 or 6 short stories on my "to read" list) I'm considering either trying to read Dracula or Frankenstein. Any opinions on which is the better of the two?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2020 3:45:30 GMT
After I finish my Lovecraft binge (still about 5 or 6 short stories on my "to read" list) I'm considering either trying to read Dracula or Frankenstein. Any opinions on which is the better of the two? Myself i prefer Frankenstein but that might be me having difficulty with the letter and diary entries that form the main of Dracula. I like it sometimes, as in Carrie, but here i thought it was a bit much.
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Post by francesca on Nov 1, 2020 16:45:15 GMT
There are no discussions about Nino Ricci anywhere and he doesn't have much of a social media presence. I first heard of him in one of my college literature classes. I read a few of his books including Lives of the Saints and Testament. In the beginning I enjoyed his writing but lost interest as I read more of his work. It wasn't just the incest in one of his novels that turned me off. He glosses over female infanticide as though it were a perfectly normal cultural convention. I found that quite disturbing.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2020 17:31:15 GMT
Finished Many rivers to Cross by Peter Robinson. Hes now very dependable, not as good as he was but you know youre gonna get your moneys worth from him. Very good at the police procedural novel. The Alan Banks series of novels.
Have started The Chill by Scott Carson (aka Michael Koryta). Looking forward to this one. Started promising but i'm just in the beginning yet.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2020 18:23:47 GMT
Have started Tombland by C.J. Sansom. Its Great!! its number 7 in the Matthew Shardlake series. Why the heck havent i tried them before? Its like a mix of a great historical novel ala Hilary Mantel, the same research, knowledge and attention to detail and a good historical whodunit. think Steven Saylor. This take place in 1549, two years after Henry VIII died and the boy king Edward VI is on the throne under Protectorship under a powerhungry Lord Somerset. I also think of Robert McCammons Matthew Corbett series because the main character, Shardlake is a lawyer. But also because they both have the research and attention to detail. But not the sometimes macabre parts of McCammons writing. I will certainly find more of this series.
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Post by spideyman on Nov 4, 2020 18:31:11 GMT
Finished Many rivers to Cross by Peter Robinson. Hes now very dependable, not as good as he was but you know youre gonna get your moneys worth from him. Very good at the police procedural novel. The Alan Banks series of novels.
Have started The Chill by Scott Carson (aka Michael Koryta). Looking forward to this one. Started promising but i'm just in the beginning yet. The Chill will give you a chill. Hope you enjoy it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2020 18:34:03 GMT
Finished Many rivers to Cross by Peter Robinson. Hes now very dependable, not as good as he was but you know youre gonna get your moneys worth from him. Very good at the police procedural novel. The Alan Banks series of novels.
Have started The Chill by Scott Carson (aka Michael Koryta). Looking forward to this one. Started promising but i'm just in the beginning yet. The Chill will give you a chill. Hope you enjoy it. Oh, I certainly did! Just what the doctor ordered on a dark november evening...
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Post by edwardjohn on Nov 5, 2020 16:27:36 GMT
After I finish my Lovecraft binge (still about 5 or 6 short stories on my "to read" list) I'm considering either trying to read Dracula or Frankenstein. Any opinions on which is the better of the two? Dracula.
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Post by edwardjohn on Nov 5, 2020 16:28:44 GMT
Finished "Wizard and Glass" so my journey to the Dark Tower...ends.
Started "The green Mile" I'd end my journey with the first three then Wind Through the Keyhole.
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